Luton vs Aston Villa post-match thread

[Olof's Beard]

Aye, we are pretty harsh on players sometimes. Young Tim came on in the 79th minute with the game and momentum completely against us. He gave away a few fouls but wasn't alone there. We had a better shape with him on the pitch and ultimately won. I wouldn't be writing him off as a potential starter based on that short cameo.

[BC54 VFC]

Morgan Ro(d)gers is going to be the new Ciaran Clark(e)

...or even Zanilio and Zaniola, which were both on the Match Thread!

[Gareth]

Aye, we are pretty harsh on players sometimes. Young Tim came on in the 79th minute with the game and momentum completely against us. He gave away a few fouls but wasn't alone there. We had a better shape with him on the pitch and ultimately won. I wouldn't be writing him off as a potential starter based on that short cameo.

I thought he did just fine, brought physicality that had disappeared for the 25 mins beforehand…was thrown into the storm and didn’t shirk

[PaulWinch again]

Aye, we are pretty harsh on players sometimes. Young Tim came on in the 79th minute with the game and momentum completely against us. He gave away a few fouls but wasn't alone there. We had a better shape with him on the pitch and ultimately won. I wouldn't be writing him off as a potential starter based on that short cameo.

His first few mins were really poor, he gave away fouls in positions that played into Luton’s hands. He did improve after that, but he needs to be careful about picking up the pace of the game when he comes on. He’ll learn.

[Somniloquism]

Anyone who knows the xG shit know why our XG on the end of the match was 1.83 and Luton's was 2.28?

[Clampy]

Anyone who knows the xG shit know why our XG on the end of the match was 1.83 and Luton's was 2.28?

Just ignore xg. Thats all you have to do.

[Holy Trinity]

Anyone who knows the xG shit know why our XG on the end of the match was 1.83 and Luton's was 2.28?

Cashes goalline clearance. Hard to say exactly but I'd imagine that was around a 0.81- 0.85 xg and the follow up that went in would have been similar. That would put them at 1.6 ish plus the other goal was probably about a 0.3 - 0.4 and which would put then around 2 and then loads of points for all the headers in the general direction of our goal from corners and set peices.

I'd say out xg was around a 0.5 for ollies first and about 0.7 for his second with digne being around a 0.3. These are rough guesses so I'll see if I can check now and edit in the actual figures.

[lovejoy]

There are different xGs some just add up all chances. So you can have a few chances in the same attack which can amount to more than 1. This is nonsense as the most an attack should get is 1.

[Gareth]

Anyone who knows the xG shit know why our XG on the end of the match was 1.83 and Luton's was 2.28?

It’s a guess about something that doesn’t happen

3 points on the other hand :-)

I always think that anyone who put any interest in xG is someone I couldn’t be friends with :-) compete nonsense :-)

[Holy Trinity]

Yh I just tried to find a shot by shot xg to see how I measured up a d who scored, bbc, and sky all have different xg's their set peice xg was almost 2 on whoscored which just means with their 400,000 free kicks for villa players farting they should have scored more.

[VillaTim]

Aye, we are pretty harsh on players sometimes. Young Tim came on in the 79th minute with the game and momentum completely against us. He gave away a few fouls but wasn't alone there. We had a better shape with him on the pitch and ultimately won. I wouldn't be writing him off as a potential starter based on that short cameo.

He came on like a bull in China shop. Then once everything was smashed he settled into a better rhythm for the last 4 mins

[Gareth]

Aye, we are pretty harsh on players sometimes. Young Tim came on in the 79th minute with the game and momentum completely against us. He gave away a few fouls but wasn't alone there. We had a better shape with him on the pitch and ultimately won. I wouldn't be writing him off as a potential starter based on that short cameo.

He came on like a bull in China shop. Then once everything was smashed he settled into a better rhythm for the last 4 mins

As opposed to Teilemans and Rogers who hadn’t engaged in a challlenge for 10-15 mins, bull in china shop was exactly what was required

[VillaTim]

Aye, we are pretty harsh on players sometimes. Young Tim came on in the 79th minute with the game and momentum completely against us. He gave away a few fouls but wasn't alone there. We had a better shape with him on the pitch and ultimately won. I wouldn't be writing him off as a potential starter based on that short cameo.

He came on like a bull in China shop. Then once everything was smashed he settled into a better rhythm for the last 4 mins

As opposed to Teilemans and Rogers who hadn’t engaged in a challlenge for 10-15 mins, bull in china shop was exactly what was required

Bottom line it was 2-2 when he came on,  and we ended up winning.

[Gareth]

Aye, we are pretty harsh on players sometimes. Young Tim came on in the 79th minute with the game and momentum completely against us. He gave away a few fouls but wasn't alone there. We had a better shape with him on the pitch and ultimately won. I wouldn't be writing him off as a potential starter based on that short cameo.

He came on like a bull in China shop. Then once everything was smashed he settled into a better rhythm for the last 4 mins

As opposed to Teilemans and Rogers who hadn’t engaged in a challlenge for 10-15 mins, bull in china shop was exactly what was required

Bottom line it was 2-2 when he came on,  and we ended up winning.

Yup, 4 great subs…hindsight tells us :-)

[dave shelley]

There has been a lot of dissatisfaction over the years with the way previous managers have handled substitutions, no plan B, time of introduction and who has been hooked or not. 

Now Unai Emery has arrived and shown us the light.  He doesn't always get it right but in the main he does.  I've never seen four hooked and replaced at the same time but Unai did it and it worked, it might not have but he had the balls to try it. 

We're fortunate enough to have him and we need to trust him.  After so many managerial failures I can understand the difficulty in changing our mindset.