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Offline oldtimernow

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #210 on: February 18, 2024, 10:16:23 AM »
Spurs have loads of London derbies, some big games against top teams but have potential banana skins against Burnley and Sheffield united….could be very close at the end

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #211 on: February 18, 2024, 10:51:19 AM »

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #212 on: February 18, 2024, 11:02:51 AM »

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #213 on: February 18, 2024, 11:31:36 AM »
Can you see the dotted line right next to the 1 on Moreno?

I have now. If the dotted line is accurate, it looks like by the letter of the law, it is offside. I don't know why they don't just go by where player's feet are though, the game is called football.

You can’t score with your elbow last time I looked
That's what drives me up the wall with var. It's just so nonsensical. It needs to be cleared up once and for all. The lines they use are just dumb and completely subjective. Arms should definitely not be used as you can't score a goal with your arm. They made themselves look utterly stupid yesterday and should be called out for it. And as others have said it's so dumb to draw lines when it's impossible to be able to pinpoint the moment when the ball is released by the passing players. The frames they use are something like 100th of a second. Go forward one frame and the player looks offside go back one frame and he's onside. Who makes the call for which frame to use? It's nonsensical bullshit and I can't believe that the Premier league which is a multi billion pound industry allow it to continue to blight the game.

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #214 on: February 18, 2024, 11:53:46 AM »
This is why VAR is not ready yet for ruling games. It’s still too subjective because we’re relying on opinions. It’s too fine a margin when we’re talking about timings, angles and placement of the camera.

I’m not sure what the answer is though.
Oh there is an easy answer. Current human body and the way it moves is not ready for VAR. Evolution will fix it. In year 2525 players will have no arms and no body gesticulation whilst moving, they will simply glide back and forth in an upright stance.   

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #215 on: February 18, 2024, 11:55:59 AM »
I don't remember that line being in the song.

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #216 on: February 18, 2024, 11:59:20 AM »
See Newcastle’s and our penalties for how VAR is applied differently.  With Newcastle they were reading the small print on how to interpret rules whereas ours was shrugged off instantly as not a clear and obvious error (I assume).  The players barely appealed in the Newcastle game.

If decisions ends up being entirely subjective and rules randomly applied we might as well just stick with the old system.

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #217 on: February 18, 2024, 12:00:43 PM »
Can you see the dotted line right next to the 1 on Moreno?

I have now. If the dotted line is accurate, it looks like by the letter of the law, it is offside. I don't know why they don't just go by where player's feet are though, the game is called football.

You can’t score with your elbow last time I looked
That's what drives me up the wall with var. It's just so nonsensical. It needs to be cleared up once and for all. The lines they use are just dumb and completely subjective. Arms should definitely not be used as you can't score a goal with your arm. They made themselves look utterly stupid yesterday and should be called out for it. And as others have said it's so dumb to draw lines when it's impossible to be able to pinpoint the moment when the ball is released by the passing players. The frames they use are something like 100th of a second. Go forward one frame and the player looks offside go back one frame and he's onside. Who makes the call for which frame to use? It's nonsensical bullshit and I can't believe that the Premier league which is a multi billion pound industry allow it to continue to blight the game.

I agree with the guitarist for the Irish band.

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #218 on: February 18, 2024, 12:16:22 PM »
I don't remember that line being in the song.

It's referenced but "in the year 5555, your arms hangin' limp at your sides". It was written before VAR was introduced though, so maybe now we'll evolve more quickly..

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #219 on: February 18, 2024, 12:16:40 PM »
Was Nas in attendance and did the camera pan to him at all? It's his local, innit.

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #220 on: February 18, 2024, 12:19:32 PM »
I've seen them given for less than that but equally I've seen them not with the dismissal Zouma "muscles" him off the ball.  Still sounds like a penalty but it's one where the likes of Dermot Gallagher hide behind word soup.

Diop not Zouma and watch it again, the real offence is his leg across Ollie's thigh which is just a blatant penalty. I can't see anything to let the officials off with, it was a terrible decision.

Yes I've seen the leg go across although it's the feet catching that brings Oli down.  I still say I've seen them given and not therefore understand why it wasn't see as a clear and obvious error.

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #221 on: February 18, 2024, 12:24:21 PM »
I don't remember that line being in the song.
Ha! Ha!

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #222 on: February 18, 2024, 12:26:14 PM »
Lenglet and Pau did work as a pair. Defence was good , didnt let them many chances. Second goal wonderful. We are at our best when we can stick passes through midfield to the attackers in a fluid movement. And Unai - what a man for us.

Big mistake from Lenglet for their goal unfortunately. Playing out of position so lost his bearings a bit I'd say but he simply  has to block off the forward getting anywhere near Martinez or the ball. Martinez would usually be a bit more decisive and Cash should be blocking the cross in the first place.  Thought Torres was at fault for that Traore chance at end watching it end, got caught behind his defensive line and played Traore on. Brilliant from Martinez.

I guess if you were told pre game Fulham would only score one goal you would have fancied us to win. We create plenty of chances to score nearly every game.

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #223 on: February 18, 2024, 12:41:08 PM »
Lenglet and Pau did work as a pair. Defence was good , didnt let them many chances. Second goal wonderful. We are at our best when we can stick passes through midfield to the attackers in a fluid movement. And Unai - what a man for us.

Big mistake from Lenglet for their goal unfortunately. Playing out of position so lost his bearings a bit I'd say but he simply  has to block off the forward getting anywhere near Martinez or the ball. Martinez would usually be a bit more decisive and Cash should be blocking the cross in the first place.  Thought Torres was at fault for that Traore chance at end watching it end, got caught behind his defensive line and played Traore on. Brilliant from Martinez.

I guess if you were told pre game Fulham would only score one goal you would have fancied us to win. We create plenty of chances to score nearly every game.

Not convinced on that. Pau was caught, but it was the lack of midfield pressure that led to it. Traore was running from deeper so so incredibly hard to get an offside.

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Re: Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint
« Reply #224 on: February 18, 2024, 12:50:26 PM »
Was Nas in attendance and did the camera pan to him at all? It's his local, innit.
And Purslow's who normally goes to these sort of games and gets down and dirty with the away faces. (though i didn't see him anywhere on X) probably away skiing in Val D'Isere / Tignes

 


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