Villa 1 Man. United 2 Post match thread.

[Drummond]

https://www.premierleague.com/news/3892274

This sums it up quite well.

[Risso]

Unai is the best manager we've had since Sir Ron, but possibly the only slight criticism I would have of him, is he sometimes leaves his substitutions too late, yesterday the subbing of Bailey did baffle me, maybe cost us the game. Anyway, obviously ignoring the result, there were far more positives than negatives, on another day we would have won quite comfortable, possibly the most pleasing thing was the improvement of JJ, still some way off his best, but he's getting there.

He's behind Big Ron and Little for me, still. Obviously the rest of the season still to go so that may change.

Nurse!

Yep, it's obviously mental thinking that managers who finished higher up the table and won a trophy were better. Pass the meds!

[wolfman999]

I detest this mob with a passion. Their first goal resulted from a free kick when St Marcus clearly dived to win it, which that pathetic mug of a referee fell for. We will win more games than we lose if we play like that in the future.

[PaulWinch again]

I detest this mob with a passion. Their first goal resulted from a free kick when St Marcus clearly dived to win it, which that pathetic mug of a referee fell for. We will win more games than we lose if we play like that in the future.

Perhaps, but if we keep defending appallingly we won’t win many.

[VillaTim]

judge the managers at the end of the season. At the moment Emery is behind Big Ron / Little and MON

[PeterWithe]

https://www.premierleague.com/news/3892274

This sums it up quite well.

Yup, good that.

[Ads]

Unai is the best manager we've had since Sir Ron, but possibly the only slight criticism I would have of him, is he sometimes leaves his substitutions too late, yesterday the subbing of Bailey did baffle me, maybe cost us the game. Anyway, obviously ignoring the result, there were far more positives than negatives, on another day we would have won quite comfortable, possibly the most pleasing thing was the improvement of JJ, still some way off his best, but he's getting there.

He's behind Big Ron and Little for me, still. Obviously the rest of the season still to go so that may change.

Nurse!

Yep, it's obviously mental thinking that managers who finished higher up the table and won a trophy were better. Pass the meds!

It would be mental to think they're better managers than Emery in general though, even if they achieved more with the League Cups and a 2nd/4th spot respectively. I think the same would really hard to do now given the way the game has transformed in 30 years, which makes what we're doing now all the more impressive.

[eamonn]

In fairness Unai also took us from 17th(?) to 7th in 6 months and European qualification for the first time in 12 years or whatever it was. That's a pretty impressive achievement, one that will culminate in Villa fans swimming in a fountain in Athens in three and a half months.

[wolfman999]

I detest this mob with a passion. Their first goal resulted from a free kick when St Marcus clearly dived to win it, which that pathetic mug of a referee fell for. We will win more games than we lose if we play like that in the future.

Perhaps, but if we keep defending appallingly we won’t win many.

Agree but then, of our five possible first team centre halves, these two are probably four and five!

[Demitri_C]

all well and good playing well etc and saying things like "on another day we win that" , but that is a game we had to win or at least not lose. It's a huge momentum shift. Absolutely gutted as you can sense what happens now . Hopefully Kamara is back soon but again knowing how things go it's 2-3 weeks out which turns into 5-6 weeks.

Have to agree with you tim. It was a must not lose game. The resultis a complete disaster.  Had we beaten Newcastle it wouldnt have mattered as much but we lost that one too.

We cant keep trying to remain positive and hope for miracles. We have been playing shit since the city game and had some fortunate results. We wernt as shit yesteeday as a attacking sense but the finishing and defensive work has been absymal. 8 goals conceded in last 3 home games. Thats simply not good enough.

Also the set pieces at times were championship level. What the hell are we doing in training?

Were all our previous wins at home the aforementioned 'miracles'?

Well how about the more recent ones

Lucky not to lose vs sheff utd

Struggled against Burnley

Lost to newcastle

Lost to chelsea

Lost to united

Not exactly impressive is it? Also Ten hag hadnt beat a top 9 side away from home until yesterday.  That result was a disaster

There is no impending or actual disaster, wind it in FFS.
And as for recent results, we’ve largely got what we deserved. Newcastle and Chelsea deserved to beat us, less so yesterday but we missed too many good chances.
As for the other games, we largely deserved exactly what we got, wins and draws. Your essentially saying we haven’t deserved the recent points we’ve got, because it serves your disaster narrative

Last nights result was a disaster simple as that. If you cant see that it wasnt i dont know what to tell you. If you think a  5 point cushion is a lot with so many games then you are in for a shock. All it takes is a loss at fulham and manure win and its 2 points.  Then thats not with us either having to go to city and arsenal.

You have misquoted me i said the result was a disaster so read what i actually i wrote please =)

I agree those losses which argues my point that we have not been playing well at all. Especially defensively. Yes we have had players out but how many did spurs have out yet they got results? You should be able to do the simple defensive work like making sure hojlund is completely unmarked. Probably one of the stupidest bits of defending ive seen

[VillaTim]

In fairness Unai also took us from 17th(?) to 7th in 6 months and European qualification for the first time in 12 years or whatever it was. That's a pretty impressive achievement, one that will culminate in Villa fans swimming in a fountain in Athens in three and a half months.

and Steve Bruce took us from 16th in the Championship to play off finalists . Also impressive

[Clampy]

It really wasnt a disaster at all. That's just so over the top. It was a disappointing result. Getting relegated is a disaster.

[Gareth]

He's a better manager than either of them. Hopefully he achieves as least as much for us as they both did.

Not for us he isn't, yet. Ron had us finishing second and won a cup. Little had us 4th and 5th, and won a cup. All Emery has done so far is emulate Gregory and O'Neill in getting us all excited at being in the top three before falling away. He's got time to change that this season though. And Emery's cup record for us is dismal.

Spot on, but it is great to watch good football and get the expectation levels back to where the reaction to losing to those scumbags isn’t just meh!

In the league he has hugely over achieved.

In the cups very poor though he does have Europe to redeem this season.

[Risso]

In fairness Unai also took us from 17th(?) to 7th in 6 months and European qualification for the first time in 12 years or whatever it was. That's a pretty impressive achievement, one that will culminate in Villa fans swimming in a fountain in Athens in three and a half months.

Pah, John Gregory did it in 11 games!

[TonyD]

The result was a disaster. 
But the performance was encouraging.