Abject Villa v Chelsea post match thread.

[tomd2103]

Has anyone else spotted how, if a team presses us high up, and we play out slowly, we cannot seem to get going. Chelsea, like Newcastle pressed high up, made quick passes and, we had no answer. Emery is the best manager we’ve had in years but, not having a different style of play when other teams don’t give us the time to mess around at the back, he needs to be able to come up with an alternative.
I didn’t like the way we played in the second half against Sheffield as, sometimes you get stuck in the groove you ended the last match ie.slow, slow and even slower. OK when you’re winning 5-0 against a crap side but not when you play against a team that has something about them.

Yet last season at home to Newcastle, Martinez kicked it long almost every time and it worked a treat.

[brontebilly]

The high back line is a thing of the past, well until we get Pau and Konsa back in tandem - this lot at the back don’t seem to be up to it mentally or physically. As for our distribution from the back, this is best viewed through your fingers…I really cannot see three of this current back four here next season, because as good as he is, Emery cannot get a tune out of the current back four, they’re mediocre at best.

Man United can't afford to really play high up the pitch with Martinez out. That's a plus. I just think we need to match them up physically. McGinn on Shaw, Ramsey on Dalot. Bailey up with Watkins but dropping back onto the right wing at times to make a 5 in midfield. Keep our shape at all times with Kamara and Luiz staying goal side of the ball. Even the full backs to stay at home more. We can't have the likes of Garnacho and Rashford running unopposed at our CBs.

We are 8 points ahead of them in the table so a point is not a bad result. Let's turn it into a battle all over the pitch.

[Brazilian Villain]

I for one won't be calling out the manager,I will be patience until that geezer at Aberdeen is free in the summer

Well, if he's half as good as the last Warnock we had...

[Ads]

There's nothing to excuse that. Absolutely nothing. Fucking embarrassing. To get out worked by a side as cowardly as Chelsea is utterly lamentable. We got nowhere near them, so loose in the press that it took a single pass time after time to beat. So loose in the pass that it lead to goals and nearly everything Chelsea created.

The marking for the 2nd. Just everything was fucking rotten. They quite clearly didn't give a single fuck about tonight. Emi aside, who didn't really have anything to do and wasn't at fault, the rest were fucking dire.

Cash is utter shite. Carlos and Lenglet look like the 4th and 5th choices they are. Fuck me I'd take Torres on one leg over those pair of clowns, who couldn't pass water, never mind play out. Fucking dire. Moreno, like Ramsey hasn't come back from injury. Kamara was probably the worst player on the park, aided by McGinn and Luiz who stunk the place out.

That was fucking disgusting. We've been hammered by 2 shite midtable teams and got lucky to concede just 3, at home in 2 games. Sort it the fuck out.

[VillaTim]

The lack of effort and uninterest shown by the players was a complete lack of respect to the paying home fans who turned up in numbers and deserved far better. Piss poor

[Skerra]

Tomd, you’re backing up what I was saying. We are far too slow with our build up and, sometimes, it’s best to mix it up a bit like going long at times and playing short at other times. The way we played tonight was too predictable.
As someone else pointed out, we have 3 fairly quick players in Watkins, Bailey and Diaby but, we’re so slow getting the ball to them that they’re usually marked and no space to do much with the ball, other than play it backwards or sideways.

[Louzie0]

I don’t think I’ve seen our lads be as clueless, slow or bullied off the ball like this since the days of SG when nobody had any direction. I am very pleased to see Pau T back on the bench, hopefully to return and give the defence some purpose and if only we’d had him or Konsa tonight I think there would have been a lot more confidence overall. As it was, I wondered if Doug had fully recovered from whatever he had last week.

We’re a bit fragile when some key players are missing. Perhaps Chelsea’s prep was better than ours, this time, but the good news is that our key players will return and there’s still a useful gap in points between us and anybody below, in the PL. Onward!

[kippaxvilla2]

https://youtu.be/33TgRK1M2e4?si=mTnHjBJMJtxrSZAM

[Axl Rose]

Great free kick and all that, but that bloke taking his shirt off and pointing at his name?

Err, didn't you cost over 100 million? You've largely been utter shite.

[Toronto Villa]

I know there is a lot to point at as to why we lost but you can argue that Konsa playing RB or RCB is better than Cash, Carlos next to Pau with Digne is our best back four, and 3 of those are out right now. We are constantly shuffling the defenders and you can see they are not as comfortable with each other. Konsa would have played tonight and we’d have been so much better. I know the football media doesn’t recognize our long injury list but it’s real and it’s starting to hurt us.

[LeonW]

Pathetic.

And yes, we’ve been well and truly found out. Put a bit of pressure on Luiz and Kamara and we fold.

Not one person involved comes out with any credit. But particular mentions to Cash, Lenglet, Kamara, Luiz and the star of the show; Diego Carlos who was not even fit to lace K. Hause or Engles boots tonight. What an absolute waste of money.

[ChicagoLion]

Play that back 4 for a season and you are in a relegation battle.
The foundation of a team is built on defence, games are won in midfield, if there is no foundation you lose the midfield battle.
Our back 4 was ragged and our midfield constantly under pressure.
Play the same way on Sunday we will get hammered.
Even Torres playing will not be enough, we need a change of plan.

[steamer]

There's nothing to excuse that. Absolutely nothing. Fucking embarrassing. To get out worked by a side as cowardly as Chelsea is utterly lamentable. We got nowhere near them, so loose in the press that it took a single pass time after time to beat. So loose in the pass that it lead to goals and nearly everything Chelsea created.

The marking for the 2nd. Just everything was fucking rotten. They quite clearly didn't give a single fuck about tonight. Emi aside, who didn't really have anything to do and wasn't at fault, the rest were fucking dire.

Cash is utter shite. Carlos and Lenglet look like the 4th and 5th choices they are. Fuck me I'd take Torres on one leg over those pair of clowns, who couldn't pass water, never mind play out. Fucking dire. Moreno, like Ramsey hasn't come back from injury. Kamara was probably the worst player on the park, aided by McGinn and Luiz who stunk the place out.

That was fucking disgusting. We've been hammered by 2 shite midtable teams and got lucky to concede just 3, at home in 2 games. Sort it the fuck out.

Glad you said all that as it is exactly how I feel
Apart from Torres back and Ramsey starting I can not see much that can change for Sunday.
Apart from, application, endeavour and a bit of actually giving a fuck.

[Villafirst]

This season is rapidly mirroring 1998/99. We imploded badly after January. Deadly Doug refused to push the boat out for Juninho and the season fizzled out.

[Bad English]

Even Roy Keane and Karen Carney were bigging up the Villa before kick-off: "great team to watch, even though I'm a Birmingham fan, blah blah..."

And then they come out and blast projectile diarrhoea all over the park. Fucking typical!