Aston Villa 1-3 Newcastle Post match cry

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

Loved the little shimmy from Bailey with his back to goal on the halfway line to send Burn on his arse. The touch my McGinn, again on the halfway line, whilst backing into the defender to kill the ball for Watkins to play it wide were highlights but there wasn’t much else, goal aside, to get excited about last night.

[olaftab]

We really miss Mings' defending at set pieces.

We just really miss him full stop. Best CB at the club still.

Injured players become legends in our imagination. It wasn't long ago that a lot on here described him as a "mistake or two per match Tyrone".

[ChicagoLion]

We really miss Mings' defending at set pieces.

We just really miss him full stop. Best CB at the club still.

Injured players become legends in our imagination. It wasn't long ago that a lot on here described him as a "mistake or two per match Tyrone".

Not since UE arrived.
The best he has ever played for us and he seemed to have cut out the howlers.

[SamTheMouse]

We really miss Mings' defending at set pieces.

We just really miss him full stop. Best CB at the club still.

Injured players become legends in our imagination. It wasn't long ago that a lot on here described him as a "mistake or two per match Tyrone".

Those mistakes pretty much vanished the moment Emery arrived. He was mostly rock solid after that.

[nick harper]

Playing out from the back has become ineffective. The defenders get pushed back into the corners and the midfielders don't make themselves available.

Yep.  Need a plan B

Plan b is for EMI to hit it long to feet to the wide players or occasionally Watkins. Problem is they couldn’t get hold of it against very aggressive defenders and Emi’s passing wasn’t good enough. Consequently we kept turning over possession. Worked a treat against Newcastle last season.

In general, Emery is not going to change the way play. He will want players to improve and be brave.

The one area I do get frustrated is when we do win the ball back, we often turn back and slow the game. We should look to do the opposite more often before teams get back into shape.

[tomd2103]

Playing out from the back has become ineffective. The defenders get pushed back into the corners and the midfielders don't make themselves available.

Yep.  Need a plan B

Plan b is for EMI to hit it long to feet to the wide players or occasionally Watkins. Problem is they couldn’t get hold of it against very aggressive defenders and Emi’s passing wasn’t good enough. Consequently we kept turning over possession. Worked a treat against Newcastle last season.

Yep, as you say, the ball out to McGinn worked a treat against them last season.  Emi's kicking was wayward last night though and he just seemed to find the heads of their defenders every time.

[Bobby Boy]

Playing out from the back has become ineffective. The defenders get pushed back into the corners and the midfielders don't make themselves available.

Yep.  Need a plan B

Plan b is for EMI to hit it long to feet to the wide players or occasionally Watkins. Problem is they couldn’t get hold of it against very aggressive defenders and Emi’s passing wasn’t good enough. Consequently we kept turning over possession. Worked a treat against Newcastle last season.

Yep, as you say, the ball out to McGinn worked a treat against them last season.  Emi's kicking was wayward last night though and he just seemed to find the heads of their defenders every time.

However, these long balls were often aimed in Diaby's direction when he was up against Dan Burn which was mind-numbing.

Playing long balls in Burn"s direction is just Christmas coming early for him. He isn't quick though but we never tried Diaby in a foot race with him which seemed the most obvious tactic.

I was watching Diaby in the first half when our centre backs had possession and he just stood in front of Dan Burn, never offering any movement or that he was looking to get in behind. It looked to me like he was hiding but maybe that's unfair?

[LeeS]

Playing out from the back has become ineffective. The defenders get pushed back into the corners and the midfielders don't make themselves available.

Yep.  Need a plan B

Plan b is for EMI to hit it long to feet to the wide players or occasionally Watkins. Problem is they couldn’t get hold of it against very aggressive defenders and Emi’s passing wasn’t good enough. Consequently we kept turning over possession. Worked a treat against Newcastle last season.

Yep, as you say, the ball out to McGinn worked a treat against them last season.  Emi's kicking was wayward last night though and he just seemed to find the heads of their defenders every time.

However, these long balls were often aimed in Diaby's direction when he was up against Dan Burn which was mind-numbing.

Playing long balls in Burn"s direction is just Christmas coming early for him. He isn't quick though but we never tried Diaby in a foot race with him which seemed the most obvious tactic.

I was watching Diaby in the first half when our centre backs had possession and he just stood in front of Dan Burn, never offering any movement or that he was looking to get in behind. It looked to me like he was hiding but maybe that's unfair?

He got in behind at least three times that I counted but each time squandered the opportunity. Partly because of confidence and partly because Ollie kept going back post with 2 covering centre halves in his way.

[PaulWinch again]

It’s close but order of best centre half’s is Pau, Ezri, Mings, DC, Lenglet for me.

[KevinGage]

It’s close but order of best centre half’s is Pau, Ezri, Mings, DC, Lenglet for me.

Pau is the best all-round player out of that lot. But Mings is the more physical of the two and the best fit for us in this league.

[VillaTim]

It’s close but order of best centre half’s is Pau, Ezri, Mings, DC, Lenglet for me.

Mings Konsa Torres DC Lenglet Hause Chanbers

[itmustbe_it is!]

You only had to see that last night - Bailey comes on and sets up Oli, the crowd is up and if Oli's 2nd one is given then we'd have at least drawn. Despite being poor for 60 minutes.

This

[ChicagoLion]

Torres is not only our best centre halF he is one of our best players.

[astonvilla82]

There were occasions when we won back the ball and Martinez had the opportunity to launch the ball forward immediately with the majority of Newcastle in our half but instead waited for Newcastle to regroup ,as I mentioned we had the opportunity to have a quick break in other games also,I think teams except us to play it out from defence, so why not try something different now and again

[Lastfootstamper]

At about the same time Moreno was bundling one into his own net, some toerags broke into the site I'm working on and robbed my tools. Shit evening all round.