Aston Villa 1-3 Newcastle Post match cry

[Bobby Boy]

As abject a first 70 minutes as it gets. A performance lacking in any aspects to be competitive in this league. Lethargic, slow, ponderous. Possession for the sake of it without any intent.

Played completely into Newcastle’s hands.

The negative and passive mindset was summed up for me by our kickoff at the start of the second half. A couple of passes backwards and it was with Martinez.

McGinn was the only player to seem to give a damn until Bailey came on.

Need to change the mindset and the approach pronto to stop this season from slipping away from us.

[Stinkin_Thinkin]

Zaniolo looked like a competition winner when he came on. Laughably bad.
Diarby was awful from the first kick off. Do we have to give every signing 3 seasons before they can do the basics? Can anyone come to Villa and hit the ground running like Dean Saunders?

Targeting Burn was the right idea, we didn't execute the plan at all. Cash had a couple of runs at him but wanted to chop inside all the time, the one time he didn't Burn commited and slid in and won the ball! Whenever we looked dangerous they smothered us with 3 men around the man with the ball McGinn bossed Miley Kamara seemed to do ok but Luiz was so slow and predictable in posession, I was suprised he wasn't hooked.
Bailey changed the game when he came on, why isn't he starting?
Unfortunalty that battering has been coming for a few weeks now.

[ROBBO]

Emery must be protecting Bailey that's the only reason i can see for him not starting in front of Diaby. Those that have been knocking Watkins look at what he did when Bailey gave him service, both cracking goals, pity about the offside. Injuries are the main reason for loss of form, whether it's players injured or coming back lacking match fitness, any team would suffer. It's a pity we can't bring in two or three this month.

[ChicagoLion]

Emery must be protecting Bailey that's the only reason i can see for him not starting in front of Diaby. Those that have been knocking Watkins look at what he did when Bailey gave him service, both cracking goals, pity about the offside. Injuries are the main reason for loss of form, whether it's players injured or coming back lacking match fitness, any team would suffer. It's a pity we can't bring in two or three this month.

Every team has injuries, Newcastle even more than us.

[brontebilly]

The frustrating thing is that Newcastle are bang average.  Just like on that first game of the season, they've made us look awful without actually being good themselves.  So, so frustrating.  We played right into their oily hands as we did in August or whenever the fuck it was up there.  They literally banged diagonal balls over Matt Cash.  As they did in fucking August.

Diaby needs taking out the team for a few games - at the very least benching.  His confidence is completely and obviously shot.  Bailey made us immediately 100% better we he came on and is currently our best attacking player by a mile - first big cock up from Emery starting Diaby today but he's got all of the worlds gold in the bank so I'll let him off!

So, prepare yourselves for Spurs winning tomorrow and replacing us in 4th and an absolute ****** full of media talking heads saying that our inevitable 'dip' has started (and then, even worse, that we should be grateful for having breathed the purified air among the 'elite' for as long as we did).  I can't wait.

We don't need the media to tell us our dip has started, performance wise it has been evident for some time. Newcastle were miles better than us individually, collectively and Howe owned Emery tactically. Physically much stronger than us too.

Tactically I thought Emery had a nightmare and failing to change at half time put the tin hat on it. Lack of in game tactical changes reminded me of Dean Smith, from very early on it was clear we had no control defending their counter pressing. We simply had to drop off another 10 yards defensively. Failing to change at half time sucked any buzz from the restart. Three subs on 60 mins is really an admission he got things badly wrong. Bailey proved him wrong within minutes.

Our high offside line isn't working any more as Chelsea proved, Tielemans on left is a liability and front two miles off it. The tight midfield four that was working so well is now being exploited out wide on counter, all first half Cash was left high and dry with Gordon having a field day. Tonight was a night for tactics similar to Spurs away last season, recognise we are missing likes of Torres so sit back, keep our shape and pick our moments. We went kamikaze instead and deservedly paid the price.

Martinez 7 - fortunate with one parry but aside from that saved us from a hiding
Cash 2 - horror show defensively but not helped tactically. Idiotic Cruyff turn in midfield cost us the third, with the ball he was dreadful, even more so after Bailey came on, Bailey made a series of runs for him but Cash took the wrong option again and again
Konsa 3 -  caught flat footed early on and as the most experienced player should take most responsibility for how disorganised we were. Really poor, turned like a pub player at end
Lenglet 4 - made two excellent goal saving blocks but clearly targeted by Newcastle's press early on and struggled badly yet again. Thought he should have done better with second goal. He started well for us but last two games have been horrid.
Moreno 1 - half a yard short in every aspect of his play, as poor an individual performance as I've seen from a Villa player in a long time. That injury seems to have knocked a lot of zip from him. If he was sharper he doesn't get the own goal either.
Kamara 5 - don't think centre mid was problem area but after his yellow he was anonymous. Maybe should have spotted Cash's struggles earlier and given more support.
Luiz 6 - best player first half, tidy on ball as always but body language not best at times
McGinn 6 - kept trying to the end, only outfield player to match them physically, big miss before half time
Tielemans 3 - not capable of playing that role on left, not mobile or disciplined enough. So either he drops into a midfield three or drops out
Diaby 2 - bullied from the first duel and shouldn't have seen past half time. When the big chance did come there was no conviction in shot
Watkins 6 - appalling first half but did improve a lot second half, good to see him back on the scoresheet but too little too late

Bailey was outstanding from first touch and got a brilliant assist, Zaniolo was a joke, moody teenager vibes from an experienced international, Ramsey ran around a lot without doing much but at least can get back unlike Tielemans.

[tony scott]

We were poor tonight, at times you would have thought we were the team with the 2 or three goal cushion constantly recycling the ball but going nowhere, I get the mantra about keeping shape, but surely there has to be a plan B!  At times even in this game we tried to up the tempo, only to find one of our players slowly things. Well that’s a defeat we all knew was coming, what’s next?

[Percy McCarthy]

I was wondering whether our tactic of leaving 2 players up when defending corners contributed to our defeat. There was certainly more space in the area and we looked vulnerable from corners, aside from conceding twice in that way.

Also, it didn't pay off once as we were never able to make use of having the players up in that position.

Yes, that was a bit daft.

[PaulWinch again]

We were poor tonight, at times you would have thought we were the team with the 2 or three goal cushion constantly recycling the ball but going nowhere, I get the mantra about keeping shape, but surely there has to be a plan B!  At times even in this game we tried to up the tempo, only to find one of our players slowly things. Well that’s a defeat we all knew was coming, what’s next?

Like I’ve said elsewhere I’m hoping that’s kind of hitting bottom - as you suggest it’s kind of been coming. That can be shown back to the players and they can face into it. Time to turn it around and start playing again- oh and can we have Pau and Digne back please!

[VillaTim]

I do fear we will have a 3-4 game bottoming out period before we start to pick up again

[tomd2103]

Really flat performance.  We only played with real tempo and purpose for a short period in the 2nd half and nearly scored twice.

It just wasn't good.  Emi's kicking was uncharacteristically wayward, Cash and Moreno look way off it at the moment, Lenglet is OK as a stop gap, but always looks like there is a mistake in him, Luiz and Kamara were second best in midfield all evening and Diaby is struggling.

Hopefully we can regain our form at the weekend and in time for the cup replay.

[Axl Rose]

Jenas sounds far to happy for Newcastle.
Crouch is just a complete non knowledgeable football pundit so don't need to see it hear anymore analysis yo why we were so poor from them.

Haha. Footy

[BC54 VFC]

Talk of selling Diaby is knee jerk, and just daft. He’s obviously struggling a lot, but we shouldn’t give up on him. He was one of a load of dreadful performances tonight.

He’s been piss poor for months and he’s an Emery pick. Useless.

All of Emery's signings are looking suspect . - Diaby / Zaniolo / Moreno

You are tedious

Honestly, moreno was absolutely incredible last season and is still returning from a 6 month lay off, fucking get a grip

DimTim is just getting up to speed in his quest to become as widely considered a talker of utter horseshit as he was under his previous logins.

thank god i've got you on ignore Pauline

Derr....well, clearly not as a) you saw his post, and b) you responded!!

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Fucking booooooooooooooooooooo!

[Louzie0]

Ditto

[coreyfeldman]

Easy with hindsight to say the tactics & selection were wrong but you also need to match them physically. Bailey should have been on at half time.

Diaby doesn't seem to know what's being asked of him & the team don't seem to know how to play with him. He is too lightweight to play centrally or facing away from goal. He should be playing wide or on the shoulder of the centre half.

We need to bounce back quickly.

What other line up could he have started with,  given that he's said bailey has been carrying a knock?