Aston Villa v Burnley Post Match Thread

[olaftab]

What was going on with JJ shoving their player all over the box after the penalty was awarded, and getting booked for it?

The twats were trying to rough up the spot. The player JJ pushed was the main culprit but we needn't have worried as the McGinn-Arse line was developed to protect the spot.

[Pat McMahon]

Martinez booked again too, he must be closing in on a suspension

Nowhere near. Four bookings now, so as long as he doesn't get another 6 for the rest of the season he'll be fine. The 5 bookings thing only applies for the first half of the season.

I get the distinct impression that Martinez will get to 9 bookings by the last game of the season absolutely on purpose. He tends to get one exactly when we need it to waste time.

100%. He bloody loves it.

I actually thought Martinez’ booking yesterday was harsh. It really didn’t feel like he was stretching out that goal kick. I honestly think refs have targeted him and like the idea of booking a World Cup winner as a badge of honour. He very evidently does take the piss when needed, but not yesterday for me.

[Pat McMahon]

What was going on with JJ shoving their player all over the box after the penalty was awarded, and getting booked for it?

The twats were trying to rough up the spot. The player JJ pushed was the main culprit but we needn't have worried as the McGinn-Arse line was developed to protect the spot.

I like that tactic of another player grabbing the ball and protecting the spot. Ashley Young did it v Brentford last season and attracted all their shithousery, allowing Ings to take the penalty unruffled.

[john e]

The Burnley lot don't seem to rate Aaron Ramsey at all from the match thread on there forum. Apparantly responsible for a few they've conceded this season.

I've only seen them play twice, so have no idea how he's doing.

Met a Burnley STH at the cricket in WI recently who says he liked the look of him in what they've seen. But then he spoilt it by saying that their best ever signing was Westwood. Nowt as queer as folk so they say.

For all the stick Westwood took, he spent ten years as a Premier League regular so for the money they paid, he may well be their best signing.

and was one of the very few if any to show any emotion when we got relegated at Old Trafford
I know it’s only a trivial little thing but it still means something to me

[RamboandBruno]

The Burnley lot don't seem to rate Aaron Ramsey at all from the match thread on there forum. Apparantly responsible for a few they've conceded this season.

I've only seen them play twice, so have no idea how he's doing.

Met a Burnley STH at the cricket in WI recently who says he liked the look of him in what they've seen. But then he spoilt it by saying that their best ever signing was Westwood. Nowt as queer as folk so they say.

For all the stick Westwood took, he spent ten years as a Premier League regular so for the money they paid, he may well be their best signing.

and was one of the very few if any to show any emotion when we got relegated at Old Trafford
I know it’s only a trivial little thing but it still means something to me

Limited player but always seemed a good sort amongst a shower of chancers to me.

[olaftab]

What was going on with JJ shoving their player all over the box after the penalty was awarded, and getting booked for it?

one of their players was having a go at Aaron for giving the pen away so his big bro stepped in

No nothing like that. It was about roughing up the spot. In any case JJ has no right to do what you said on the pitch. It would be unprofessional. His  brother and the chap involved are teammates so teammates can have a go  at each other and they should.

[AV84]

What was going on with JJ shoving their player all over the box after the penalty was awarded, and getting booked for it?

one of their players was having a go at Aaron for giving the pen away so his big bro stepped in

No nothing like that. It was about roughing up the spot. In any case JJ has no right to do what you said on the pitch. It would be unprofessional. His  brother and the chap involved are teammates so teammates can have a go  at each other and they should.

Also, if it had been what happened, it wouldn't do Aaron any favours, having his big brother fight his battles for him.

[VillaTim]

What was going on with JJ shoving their player all over the box after the penalty was awarded, and getting booked for it?

one of their players was having a go at Aaron for giving the pen away so his big bro stepped in

No nothing like that. It was about roughing up the spot. In any case JJ has no right to do what you said on the pitch. It would be unprofessional. His  brother and the chap involved are teammates so teammates can have a go  at each other and they should.

Also, if it had been what happened, it wouldn't do Aaron any favours, having his big brother fight his battles for him.

but that is what happened though. Nothing to do with the pen spot.

[algy]

On Lyle Foster, this is from early November

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Thanks for posting. Sounds like he's had a bit of a bad time of it so far. Hope he can get the support he needs.

[pauliewalnuts]

I thought Foster was excellent.

[olaftab]

but that is what happened though. Nothing to do with the pen spot.

If you have any actual evidence feel free to post it on here.

[ROBBO]

strange that the betting has us at 25 to one for the premiership yet odds on for top four, Arsnal at about 7 to one for top spot. Crazy.

[ChicagoLion]

strange that the betting has us at 25 to one for the premiership yet odds on for top four, Arsnal at about 7 to one for top spot. Crazy.

Betting odds are based on calculations not craziness.

[Allan C]

VAR needs to have a time limit. If you cannot tell within 30-45 seconds a major error or a clear miss of an infraction has been made by the on pitch officials then go with the original decision.

That’s my thoughts exactly. 30 seconds and if they can’t decide then it’s obviously not a “clear and obvious” mistake. On the penalty, I thought it was, my son thought it wasn’t which pretty much mirrors the points on this thread and highlights the refereeing consistency argument. One will give it, on another day, one won’t.

[Flamingo Lane]

I haven't seen footage of the Burnley 'goal' that was disallowed for offside in the first half. At the game  I thought the scorer looked yards offside, so was surprised that VAR took ages over it. Was this actually a close one?