Aston Villa v Burnley Post Match Thread

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Quite a few of those have been given where a defender is too slow and the striker comes from behind and nicks it away and is caught by the defender. They have actually been used to tell VAR not to always back the ref on contact if a penalty has been given, luckily for us they decided to back Atwell. However, as we have had certain nailed on ones not given which have cost us points in several matches, I will take it for the win.

But this is the problem, it wasn’t  a pen but because they keep making shit decisions we  have no reason to feel any remorse whatsoever.
This is not how it should be.
We should have won today because we created so many guilt edged chances which we failed to convert.
The problem is that we have a completely useless bunch of idiots officiating the game.

Couldn't agree more CL!
Refs and VAR making up their own interpretations of clear and simple rules have muddied the waters incredibly.
Instead of a two handed push and shirt pulling on Ollie Watkins being deemed no foul we have a grab of a bit of a shirt today being deemed a foul and a yellow card. How the f**k does that happen? The PL Refs' Union only have themselves to blame for the continual shit they get when they dispense such ridiculous inconsistencies!

[pauliewalnuts]

Considering we have 30,000 on the waiting list, does anyone know why the club don’t give out attendance figures anymore?

aggressive tax avoidance

Fair enough, you don't get to be a hedge fund billionaire by paying more tax than you need to.

We have hedge fund billionaires owning the club?

Yes, he's called Wes.

You understand the difference between Hedge Funds and Private Equity?

He was the king of sub prime mortgage lending, that's one label that's accurate.

[Somniloquism]

Quite a few of those have been given where a defender is too slow and the striker comes from behind and nicks it away and is caught by the defender. They have actually been used to tell VAR not to always back the ref on contact if a penalty has been given, luckily for us they decided to back Atwell. However, as we have had certain nailed on ones not given which have cost us points in several matches, I will take it for the win.

But this is the problem, it wasn’t  a pen but because they keep making shit decisions we  have no reason to feel any remorse whatsoever.
This is not how it should be.
We should have won today because we created so many guilt edged chances which we failed to convert.
The problem is that we have a completely useless bunch of idiots officiating the game.

It is not a new thing and is nothing to do with VAR. For untold years we have had useless bunches of idiots officiating the game and the "big" teams getting decisions that ultimately win them a tight game. So when they do go our way I accept them.

[pauliewalnuts]

re the penalty, end of the day, who cares if it was or was not, we got it, which is the correct course of events.

There will be, and have been, plenty where we do not or have not.

For now, fuck them, we'll take the three points, you can whine about pen or no pen as long as you like. And while you're at it, that baseball cap + smart casual look is weird.

[ChicagoLion]

Considering we have 30,000 on the waiting list, does anyone know why the club don’t give out attendance figures anymore?

aggressive tax avoidance

Fair enough, you don't get to be a hedge fund billionaire by paying more tax than you need to.

We have hedge fund billionaires owning the club?

Yes, he's called Wes.

You understand the difference between Hedge Funds and Private Equity?

He was the king of sub prime mortgage lending, that's one label that's accurate.

But a hedge fund billionaire isn’t.

[Risso]

Burnley didn’t bring many fans either, so double balls to them.

[Brazilian Villain]

Considering we have 30,000 on the waiting list, does anyone know why the club don’t give out attendance figures anymore?

aggressive tax avoidance

Fair enough, you don't get to be a hedge fund billionaire by paying more tax than you need to.

We have hedge fund billionaires owning the club?

Yes, he's called Wes.

You understand the difference between Hedge Funds and Private Equity?

Most certainly, I've worked with both those type of funds.

[Risso]

Wes’s firm Fortress definitely had hedge funds. Wasn’t just private equity.

[ChicagoLion]

Wes’s firm Fortress definitely had hedge funds. Wasn’t just private equity.

But he is not a Hedge Fund billionaire.

Fortress Investment Group LLC is a leading, highly diversified global investment manager.

Founded in 1998, Fortress manages $46.2 billion of assets under management as of September 30, 2023, on behalf of over 1,900 institutional clients and private investors worldwide across a range of credit and real estate, private equity and permanent capital investment strategies.
Not a hedge fund.

[Somniloquism]

Couldn't agree more CL!
Refs and VAR making up their own interpretations of clear and simple rules have muddied the waters incredibly.
Instead of a two handed push and shirt pulling on Ollie Watkins being deemed no foul we have a grab of a bit of a shirt today being deemed a foul and a yellow card. How the f**k does that happen? The PL Refs' Union only have themselves to blame for the continual shit they get when they dispense such ridiculous inconsistencies!

There was enough on here bemoaning a player not being sent off for this exact foul and reason with the Bournemouth match. However your description of" a bit of a shirt" is probably stretched more then Luiz's jersey did with the grab. It was a deliberate act to stop Luiz from going forward on the attack with no attempt to play a ball and is more certain of yellow cards then other actions these days.

I do want to know why Atwell decided the first foul on JJ wasn't a freekick though but was a booking. After all any advantage was over almost straight away (3 seconds after the incident is when Moreno lost the ball) and we got called back for a "foul" on the keeper 20 seconds after Sheffield United had advantage twice. In the end we got the goal from that period of play directly after but we still had a slight scare with Konsa and Odebert.

[Somniloquism]

Accountants having a fight. Well I never........

[Brazilian Villain]

Wes’s firm Fortress definitely had hedge funds. Wasn’t just private equity.

Agreed, he was a partner at BlackRock before he co-founded Fortress which was named "Hedge Fund Manager of the Year" in 2014 by Institutional Investor. In this instance, I'd say the term 'hedge fund billionaire' is close enough for the purposes of a quip in a post-match thread.

[ChicagoLion]

Accountants having a fight. Well I never........

Don’t ever call me an accountant 

[Brazilian Villain]

Accountants having a fight. Well I never........

Accountants and CFA(s).

[PeterWithesShin]

Accountants having a fight. Well I never........