Aston Villa v Burnley Post Match Thread

[Risso]

It's a pen. You don't have to clatter a player for it to be a foul. Their player was dumb as fuck to do that shirt pull while on a yellow. The only wrong decision was the handball, which was outside the box. I assume it would have been a yellow and a good free kick chance for them. Although a red appearing wouldn't shock me these days.

The contact was minimal, Duran earns the penalty. It has happened against us many times. I am grateful but it doesn’t make it right.

Having seen it again, it doesn't look anything like a penalty to me. The defender mildly touches Duran's foot, which isn't a foul, but Jhon goes down and flips over and over like he's been shot. The contact looked similar to me to the Luiz one against Arsenal which wasn't given against us. Still, we've had enough shit decisions, like Ollie being shoved over, so I'll take anything marginal in our favour.

[Legion]

Same.

[kippaxvilla2]

Ollie shoved over twice against wolves as well.  The handball agains Sheffield United which if judged to to be the tee shirt line meant he was wearing a dinner shirt.  Then there’s the offside that shouldn’t have been in the conference match. Fcuk them I say.

[adrenachrome]

It's a pen. You don't have to clatter a player for it to be a foul. Their player was dumb as fuck to do that shirt pull while on a yellow. The only wrong decision was the handball, which was outside the box. I assume it would have been a yellow and a good free kick chance for them. Although a red appearing wouldn't shock me these days.

The contact was minimal, Duran earns the penalty. It has happened against us many times. I am grateful but it doesn’t make it right.

Having seen it again, it doesn't look anything like a penalty to me. The defender mildly touches Duran's foot, which isn't a foul, but Jhon goes down and flips over and over like he's been shot. The contact looked similar to me to the Luiz one against Arsenal which wasn't given against us. Still, we've had enough shit decisions, like Ollie being shoved over, so I'll take anything marginal in our favour.

Dean Smith was the co-commentator on R5 Live.

He said it was never a penalty.

[Somniloquism]

Quite a few of those have been given where a defender is too slow and the striker comes from behind and nicks it away and is caught by the defender. They have actually been used to tell VAR not to always back the ref on contact if a penalty has been given, luckily for us they decided to back Atwell. However, as we have had certain nailed on ones not given which have cost us points in several matches, I will take it for the win.

[VillaTim]

Considering we have 30,000 on the waiting list, does anyone know why the club don’t give out attendance figures anymore?

aggressive tax avoidance

[Brazilian Villain]

Considering we have 30,000 on the waiting list, does anyone know why the club don’t give out attendance figures anymore?

aggressive tax avoidance

Fair enough, you don't get to be a hedge fund billionaire by paying more tax than you need to.

[VillaTim]

Considering we have 30,000 on the waiting list, does anyone know why the club don’t give out attendance figures anymore?

aggressive tax avoidance

Fair enough, you don't get to be a hedge fund billionaire by paying more tax than you need to.

look after the pennies and the trillions $$$$ look after themselves. To the moon baby 

[Risso]

Quite a few of those have been given where a defender is too slow and the striker comes from behind and nicks it away and is caught by the defender. They have actually been used to tell VAR not to always back the ref on contact if a penalty has been given, luckily for us they decided to back Atwell. However, as we have had certain nailed on ones not given which have cost us points in several matches, I will take it for the win.

VAR only seem to overrule penalties given if it's very clear and obvious, eg if there's a touch of the ball that the ref missed, or if it's a complete dive with no contact whatsoever. Where there's some contact, they normally stick with the ref's decision to give it or not.

[ChicagoLion]

Quite a few of those have been given where a defender is too slow and the striker comes from behind and nicks it away and is caught by the defender. They have actually been used to tell VAR not to always back the ref on contact if a penalty has been given, luckily for us they decided to back Atwell. However, as we have had certain nailed on ones not given which have cost us points in several matches, I will take it for the win.

But this is the problem, it wasn’t  a pen but because they keep making shit decisions we  have no reason to feel any remorse whatsoever.
This is not how it should be.
We should have won today because we created so many guilt edged chances which we failed to convert.
The problem is that we have a completely useless bunch of idiots officiating the game.

[Brazilian Villain]

Considering we have 30,000 on the waiting list, does anyone know why the club don’t give out attendance figures anymore?

aggressive tax avoidance

Fair enough, you don't get to be a hedge fund billionaire by paying more tax than you need to.

look after the pennies and the trillions $$$$ look after themselves. To the moon baby 

Not in doubt, when we have Lunai Emery in charge.

[ChicagoLion]

Considering we have 30,000 on the waiting list, does anyone know why the club don’t give out attendance figures anymore?

aggressive tax avoidance

Fair enough, you don't get to be a hedge fund billionaire by paying more tax than you need to.

We have hedge fund billionaires owning the club?

[Brazilian Villain]

Considering we have 30,000 on the waiting list, does anyone know why the club don’t give out attendance figures anymore?

aggressive tax avoidance

Fair enough, you don't get to be a hedge fund billionaire by paying more tax than you need to.

We have hedge fund billionaires owning the club?

Yes, he's called Wes.

[ChicagoLion]

Considering we have 30,000 on the waiting list, does anyone know why the club don’t give out attendance figures anymore?

aggressive tax avoidance

Fair enough, you don't get to be a hedge fund billionaire by paying more tax than you need to.

We have hedge fund billionaires owning the club?

Yes, he's called Wes.

You understand the difference between Hedge Funds and Private Equity?

[Somniloquism]

Quite a few of those have been given where a defender is too slow and the striker comes from behind and nicks it away and is caught by the defender. They have actually been used to tell VAR not to always back the ref on contact if a penalty has been given, luckily for us they decided to back Atwell. However, as we have had certain nailed on ones not given which have cost us points in several matches, I will take it for the win.

VAR only seem to overrule penalties given if it's very clear and obvious, eg if there's a touch of the ball that the ref missed, or if it's a complete dive with no contact whatsoever. Where there's some contact, they normally stick with the ref's decision to give it or not.

Yes, but after Wolves had penalties like todays given against them because the Ref had given it first as well. Webb actually listed extra guidance to VAR operators about contact in November.