Aston Villa v Burnley Post Match Thread

[paul_e]

Hanging on at home against 10 men, not great but we’ll take it and move on.

On the plus side, Diaby and Watkins looked better, Moreno looked bright and Bailey was excellent. On the negative, Carlos is really poor and Lenglet no better. The “best keeper in the world” shouldn’t be letting that second goal in.

Kamara back next game though, which should give us a big lift.

After their 2nd they never had another shot and were barely in our half, I'm not sure you can call it hanging on.

I agree Martinez will be disappointed with the 2nd but all keepers will let one in that they could do better with sometimes, Martinez does it so rarely, and keeps us in games so often, that he's massively in credit.

Carlos I can't decide, he's a bit like Mings from a couple of years back where he looks top quality for 89minutes but the other minute is terrifying. Lenglet just can't handle strikers with real pace and there are too many of them in this league for that to be a weakness we can cover for. The biggest problem with the defence though is that it works because it's so well drilled but all the changes in the last month or 2 have left it a little bit ragged, and the result is that 2nd goal where torres stepped and neither Carlos or Moreno went with him which created the gap.

We were very good going forward though today and should've scored more than 3.

[TonyD]

Looking forward to 11th Feb. 

[SaddVillan]

Against Sheff United VAR gave us nothing.
The balance was redressed today , we got every decision apart from their 2-2 goal.

[paul_e]

Against Sheff United VAR gave us nothing.
The balance was redressed today , we got every decision apart from their 2-2 goal.

Every VAR call today was objective except for the penalty but that had been given on the pitch so the bar to change the decision was too high when he clearly kicked his foot. Aside from it taking far too long I've no great issue with what happened today and I don't think there was any balancing out involved really.

The ones that bother me and things like the disallowed goal against Sheff Utd which was 3 subjective decisions (was it a foul by Ramsey, was Ramsey being fouled first and was it a new phase of play) and only if the VAR overruled the ref on all 3 could it be disallowed, that feels like re-reffing the game which they've repeatedly said isn't what it is for.

[VillaTim]

Can't say I enjoyed that , but it's a win. And what I will enjoy is my Chinese takeaway tonight and watching MOTD with whatever expert pundits they have on tonight.

[eamonn]

Got lucky with the penalty. Even if there was minimal contact, its at the edge of the box and I don't think we win that without the gimme of a pen.

[Drummond]

Carlos isn't as good as Konsa but he's still a decent player. The defence has been pretty makeshift this month and we've generally come away ok.

December in the league is:

W 4
D 2
L 1

That includes games against 3 of last season's top 4, a team that challenged us for the Europa Conference place, as well as 2 of  the promoted teams.

The best teams grind out results and we've done that (as well as losing one where we should have won, and had a better xG than the team that beat us).

Today we did what we needed to do.

[VillaTim]

Got lucky with the penalty. Even if there was minimal contact, its at the edge of the box and I don't think we win that without the gimme of a pen.

Luiz did his best to miss it too.

[paul_e]

Got lucky with the penalty. Even if there was minimal contact, its at the edge of the box and I don't think we win that without the gimme of a pen.

Not at all, Duran got in ahead of him and got kicked in the foot. He exaggerated going down but refs have made that a requirement by not giving penalties if players try to stay up.

I'm not sure where in the box it happened matters much but it wasn't at the edge, it was about in line with the penalty spot and just outside the width of the posts.

[Legion]

https://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-burnley/report/482781

[VillaTim]

Carlos and Lenglet are a nightmare pairing and Moreno I thought had a dreadful game

[Monty]

A shit win in many ways, but equally a fucking win, very needed, and that's yet another late goal too, just to prove they've got real balls

[Tony Daleys Shorts]

Some real bottle shown by us the last 2 home games. Could have been 1 point, instead we walk away with 4. Getting results even when we're below par and under strength. Happy new year every one, it's been a fantastic 2023 football wise.

Yes, well said. What a year it’s been.

I’m carrying my Villa fandom with pride rather than a huge burden for the first time in years.

[rougegorge]

That was far too nervy, so I was relieved to win.

I sensed we were going to rue all the bad misses from Diaby and Ramsey at 2 1, and we nearly did.

Going forward we were good enough and I thought Bailey was very good and caused them a lot of problems.

The issues were clearly at the other end.
Lenglet was so poor that Emery had to bring on Torres when he didn't want to.
Carlos was iffy as well and Martínez seemed at fault for the equaliser.

At least we can reset hopefully and get some players back as well as strengthen in January.

[PeterWithesShin]

No luck involved. We were the better side, and we won.