Quote from: VillaBoy_23 on December 09, 2023, 08:42:25 PMQuote from: brontebilly on December 09, 2023, 08:30:53 PMThere's something oddly satisfying winning an ugly game playing ugly. Just pure grit second half and a big impact off the bench. Some fairly old school tackles and I thought Arsenal's forwards didn't fancy it as a result. Centre backs were excellent, Digne very good on Saka and McGinn a warrior. Rode our luck for sure a few times but we will take it.Martinez 6 - very mixed second half, should have sent Cash & Havertz into ER when that last ball went in. Think he gets a bit ratty against Arsenal.Konsa 4 - started ok but couldn't cope with Martinelli due to fatigueCarlos 8 - I was ending his PL career after Bournemouth...solid out tonight Torres 8 - very impressive with and without ball Digne 8 - dealt with Saka really well, some turnaround this season Kamara 4 - similar to Konsa really, barely got a kick second half until getting hookedLuiz 6 - very quiet first half with Odegaard stuck to him. Improved a lot in second but that was an idiotic yellow for a suspensionBailey 6 - cracking assist but didn't return from breakTielemans 4 - couldn't get into the game at all and no surprise when he was hooked earlyWatkins 5 - tried hard but very little change from Arsenal CBsCash, Moreno and Diaby were all very lively. Looking forward to seeing Moreno starting v Brentford. Excellent pass from Diaby to Watkins for a decent chance. Donk got stuck in but passing a big struggle...Ramsey a bit meh again but finished okClown ratingsHonestly get fucked
Quote from: brontebilly on December 09, 2023, 08:30:53 PMThere's something oddly satisfying winning an ugly game playing ugly. Just pure grit second half and a big impact off the bench. Some fairly old school tackles and I thought Arsenal's forwards didn't fancy it as a result. Centre backs were excellent, Digne very good on Saka and McGinn a warrior. Rode our luck for sure a few times but we will take it.Martinez 6 - very mixed second half, should have sent Cash & Havertz into ER when that last ball went in. Think he gets a bit ratty against Arsenal.Konsa 4 - started ok but couldn't cope with Martinelli due to fatigueCarlos 8 - I was ending his PL career after Bournemouth...solid out tonight Torres 8 - very impressive with and without ball Digne 8 - dealt with Saka really well, some turnaround this season Kamara 4 - similar to Konsa really, barely got a kick second half until getting hookedLuiz 6 - very quiet first half with Odegaard stuck to him. Improved a lot in second but that was an idiotic yellow for a suspensionBailey 6 - cracking assist but didn't return from breakTielemans 4 - couldn't get into the game at all and no surprise when he was hooked earlyWatkins 5 - tried hard but very little change from Arsenal CBsCash, Moreno and Diaby were all very lively. Looking forward to seeing Moreno starting v Brentford. Excellent pass from Diaby to Watkins for a decent chance. Donk got stuck in but passing a big struggle...Ramsey a bit meh again but finished okClown ratings
There's something oddly satisfying winning an ugly game playing ugly. Just pure grit second half and a big impact off the bench. Some fairly old school tackles and I thought Arsenal's forwards didn't fancy it as a result. Centre backs were excellent, Digne very good on Saka and McGinn a warrior. Rode our luck for sure a few times but we will take it.Martinez 6 - very mixed second half, should have sent Cash & Havertz into ER when that last ball went in. Think he gets a bit ratty against Arsenal.Konsa 4 - started ok but couldn't cope with Martinelli due to fatigueCarlos 8 - I was ending his PL career after Bournemouth...solid out tonight Torres 8 - very impressive with and without ball Digne 8 - dealt with Saka really well, some turnaround this season Kamara 4 - similar to Konsa really, barely got a kick second half until getting hookedLuiz 6 - very quiet first half with Odegaard stuck to him. Improved a lot in second but that was an idiotic yellow for a suspensionBailey 6 - cracking assist but didn't return from breakTielemans 4 - couldn't get into the game at all and no surprise when he was hooked earlyWatkins 5 - tried hard but very little change from Arsenal CBsCash, Moreno and Diaby were all very lively. Looking forward to seeing Moreno starting v Brentford. Excellent pass from Diaby to Watkins for a decent chance. Donk got stuck in but passing a big struggle...Ramsey a bit meh again but finished ok
Quote from: adrenachrome on December 10, 2023, 01:57:21 AMFor a while now, we have been described as a physical team by opponents and pundits, but I don't really see it, apart from a few rash tackles from Matty Cash. I have never seen so much shirt pulling from any team than Arsenal did today. I suppose that's not physical as there is no body contact.I agree, I think we looked far less 'physical' than Arsenal today, so not sure what some people are watching.One thing that went unmentioned was that during the scramble for their disallowed goal, Cash was subject to a couple of kicks to the body that were at least on a par with Dougie's kick on whoever it was that they wanted a penalty for. But things like that generally bother me. When SJM put his chance wide on Wednesday, during the slow-mo I was practically shouting "that Man City bloke is groping his packet!" That kind of thing would put me off.During school football, there was one opponent who always used to pinch. At corners or when generally competing for the ball, he'd just reach out and pinch you wherever he could. I was once sent off because he was backing into me and pinched me very, very close to my testicles, so I grabbed his wrist and wouldn't let it go for maybe 10 seconds.* Straight red for that.I hate those kind of players, and it seems like it's coached into some of them in the PL.*I kind of got my own back the next year when we both went to head a ball from a corner, clashed heads and he broke his eye socket. Happy days.
For a while now, we have been described as a physical team by opponents and pundits, but I don't really see it, apart from a few rash tackles from Matty Cash. I have never seen so much shirt pulling from any team than Arsenal did today. I suppose that's not physical as there is no body contact.
Quote from: Richard E on December 09, 2023, 09:04:37 PMArsenal might have had more chance if Saka had tried to play football rather than spending 90% of the game lying on the floor whinging for free kicks.Absolutely. I imagine it’ll take the ground staff a few days to get Saka’s body prints out of the turf, the cheating little turd.
Arsenal might have had more chance if Saka had tried to play football rather than spending 90% of the game lying on the floor whinging for free kicks.
I hear your pain, PerthV. Done a fair share of 1 or 2am kickoffs also, but this was a positively luxurious 6.30am. But then again I wouldn’t trade a week like this for a whole season of normal kickoff times!This one was more gritty than pretty, but no surprise a bit of tiredness there after that monumental midweek effort. Special kudos to every single one of you lucky enough to be in the ground – that wall of noise shook through the speakers down here in the colonies, and you could feel it willing and dragging our lads over the line. Mrs Antipode generally refuses to watch, but she could tell it was special - didn’t even argue when i proposed an impromptu champagne breakfast at 8.30🥳🥂
I hear your pain, PerthV. Done a fair share of 1 or 2am kickoffs also, but this was a positively luxurious 6.30am.
Quote from: Holte Antipode on December 10, 2023, 04:46:59 AMI hear your pain, PerthV. Done a fair share of 1 or 2am kickoffs also, but this was a positively luxurious 6.30am. 🍻 Early time-zone crew, assemble!
You could tell Arteta instructs them to dive. It was noticeable first half how much Saka managed to cope with gravity. Only Jesus fell over with any frequency. The 2nd half, crikey. What a bunch of petulant, soft, diving wankers.They really do reflect their absolute ocean going, copper bottomed, château bottled, weapons grade, thunder ****** of a manager.They're embarrassing. And easily bullied. We did it, as did Newcastle and they got fuck all but endless salty Arteta tears out of it.Jesus, what a clown. Their feet gently touch. Somehow this means his standing leg flies in the air? Fuck off you sour faced twat. It's your birthday soon and you walk around like somebody has barbecued your cat.Havetz, an absolute waste of a player who is good at...what? Being a whiny little shit it seems, traps it on his arm, so you can fuck off as well with your tarquin mates.Shit, entitled, silent away fans. I cannot abide Arsenal. So great to grind it out and have a gritty win. We've done it both ways this week and you could see Wednesday had knackered us.The goal was outstanding though. Patient passes until the press was breached and then bang; pace, power, tearing them open.Felt we gave the ball away too easily and without pressure. Konsa struggled for me defensively and I'd have had Cash on at half time. Got lucky with Odegaard's miss, but they uff and puff Arsenal. Fuck em'.Great win. What a week!