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Author Topic: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match  (Read 26939 times)

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #150 on: December 03, 2023, 07:03:48 PM »
The defence is a lot weaker without Mings.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #151 on: December 03, 2023, 07:05:30 PM »
If you'd offered me a point away at Spuds and a win today I'd have taken it. If you're not playing well in a match then you need to keep picking up points and not lose, and while the overall performance wasn't great, the manner in which we got a point, ending the game on top, will hopefully mean the players are flying into the City game.

Lots of teams will drop points over the next month given how hectic the schedule is - if we can continue to turn losses into draws, that's a good habit to have.

To echo everyone above, Kamara is absolutely critical to how we play - he's one of the best defensive midfielders in the league - and we miss him so much in defending vs transitions, which Bournemouth are very dangerous in. If Emery doesn't trust Dendoncker, we need some quality cover for Bouba in Jan.

Now they're without Rodri, I fancy us to get something vs City at home. We tend not to have two bad performances in a row.

If we have to win one and draw one, we got it the right way round, as Spurs will be in the same region on the table as us at the end of the season.

That said there is clearly an issue with us a) conceding goals and b) not being great and conceding early away from home.  I expect Unai will figure something out and improve us in those respects, but until then it remains a concern, teams as leaky as us tend not to finish top 4.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #152 on: December 03, 2023, 07:10:33 PM »
I want to make three points:

After we beat Man Utd in Emery's first game I made a conscious decision to relax and trust his judgment. The twelve months that has followed has been one of the best years I can remember as a Villa fan. I don't get comparisons to MON and criticism of team selection, I really don't.

More broadly, I don't know how many seasons have ended with me grumbling 'such a pity we didn't draw those couple of away games instead of losing them. Those two points would have come in handy'. Today is one such game. We got nothing there last season. We got something today. It could be useful at the end of the season

The away form is the only slight negative at the moment but in the grand scheme of things we are doing amazing and on course for our best season since 95-96, a season in which we lost 3-0 at Anfield and lost twice to relegated Man City but still managed fourth and a cup.
Can we not just enjoy this, it is pretty damn amazing what we have done in twelve months!
Yeah, bro!!

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Re: Bournemouth Vs Aston Villa Post-Match
« Reply #153 on: December 03, 2023, 07:11:10 PM »
Daft to start this before the end of the game. Especially given how much added on time we get these days and we just scored

How many goals have we scored after a Post Match thread has been started? Surely any discussion while the match is playing should be confined to the Match thread otherwise I don't see the point of two separate threads.

Should we nominate someone to have responsibility for starting the Post Match thread at the appropriate time? Reading some of the replies in this thread and some of the foul language it is clearly a serious issue and I hope the Mods can resolve it before the next Match.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #154 on: December 03, 2023, 07:12:02 PM »
Semenyo is currently looking a bit of a snip for approx £10m.
although we did him the Freedom Of Bournemouth today ....

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #155 on: December 03, 2023, 07:14:17 PM »
Starting a post match thread while the match is still being played reminds me of the uber-arrogance of Mourinho when he used to go down the tunnel for half time on 42 mins  :). Simply put , outrageous behaviour

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #156 on: December 03, 2023, 07:16:00 PM »
Papering over cracks. I’m sure the majority on here thought pre match we would still win despite Bouba’s absence.

Not sure it’s papering over the cracks - we were under par and managed to get a point. Not ideal, but not the end of the world.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #157 on: December 03, 2023, 07:20:01 PM »
Papering over cracks. I’m sure the majority on here thought pre match we would still win despite Bouba’s absence.
In the cold light of day it was a shocking performance, defensively all over the place and Martinez earned us a point. Piss poor
Sorry, Corporal Jones, it wasn't 'shocking'. There were periods of play when we played some delightful football, and there was also some defensive frailty. The first 'mouth goal was a howler, to be sure.
I continue to be buoyed by the evolution that we're witnessing: after 13 months we're seeing progress in front of our very eyes. Feel privileged rather than critical.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #158 on: December 03, 2023, 07:21:19 PM »
Papering over cracks. I’m sure the majority on here thought pre match we would still win despite Bouba’s absence.
In the cold light of day it was a shocking performance, defensively all over the place and Martinez earned us a point. Piss poor
Sorry, Corporal Jones, it wasn't 'shocking'. There were periods of play when we played some delightful football, and there was also some defensive frailty. The first 'mouth goal was a howler, to be sure.
I continue to be buoyed by the evolution that we're witnessing: after 13 months we're seeing progress in front of our very eyes. Feel privileged rather than critical.
Martinez saved 2 or 3 certain goals .

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #159 on: December 03, 2023, 07:22:08 PM »
We scored 2 beauties, hit the post, missed a sitter and had one chalked off. I've seen many, far too many, Villa shockers over the years and while we were defensively iffy at times, that was nowhere near a shocker.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #160 on: December 03, 2023, 07:22:30 PM »
Papering over cracks. I’m sure the majority on here thought pre match we would still win despite Bouba’s absence.
In the cold light of day it was a shocking performance, defensively all over the place and Martinez earned us a point. Piss poor
Sorry, Corporal Jones, it wasn't 'shocking'. There were periods of play when we played some delightful football, and there was also some defensive frailty. The first 'mouth goal was a howler, to be sure.
I continue to be buoyed by the evolution that we're witnessing: after 13 months we're seeing progress in front of our very eyes. Feel privileged rather than critical.
Martinez saved 2 or 3 certain goals .
Yeah, he's great and we're very lucky to have him.
He does what he does.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #161 on: December 03, 2023, 07:23:23 PM »
Martinez saved 2 or 3 certain goals .

Which is his job. It's what all keepers do. Well unless your last name is Nyland.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #162 on: December 03, 2023, 07:26:42 PM »
We keep putting in sub-standard away performances because Emery keeps getting the starting line up bang wrong. I don’t expect to win every game but Emery keeps getting the team badly wrong in away games. It’s annoying because at home we’re almost perfect.

We've now failed to beat Wolves, Forest and Bournemouth away, three deeply shit teams.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #163 on: December 03, 2023, 07:31:35 PM »
We keep putting in sub-standard away performances because Emery keeps getting the starting line up bang wrong. I don’t expect to win every game but Emery keeps getting the team badly wrong in away games. It’s annoying because at home we’re almost perfect.

We've now failed to beat Wolves, Forest and Bournemouth away, three deeply shit teams.
I know right. It’s almost as if there is an opposing team trying to score against us.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #164 on: December 03, 2023, 07:39:14 PM »
Not sure how they kept 11 men on the pitch. Kluivert should have gone and Semenyo, just an utterly baffling failure.

Frustrating to give up such a pair of cheap goals. It's hars to maintain control of affairs when you're chasing. Dougie ought to have scored, Duran went very close and the equaliser was excellent.

Zaniolo looks utterly bereft of confidence and was far too lightweight against an overly physical bunch like Bournemouth.

Glad to get a point out of it in the end, as its games like this and Wolves we've lost in the past when not 100% with it.

I understand the need to rotate, there's a squad here for a reason. I think Konsa going to full back isn't one switch I'm keen on. He's a better passer of the ball and quicker than Carlos. A right back in January will aid the balance.

 


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