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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #285 on: December 04, 2023, 06:22:16 PM »
But controversy attracts eyes to the product. 
Eyes means dollar signs.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #286 on: December 04, 2023, 06:36:14 PM »
I think the first booking was for dissent ?
the second potential was a clear and blatant booking
maybe he bottled it because the 1st was a bit soft ?

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #287 on: December 04, 2023, 06:43:17 PM »
I think the first booking was for dissent ?
the second potential was a clear and blatant booking
maybe he bottled it because the 1st was a bit soft ?

100%, if he hadn't have booked him a few minutes earlier then he would've undoubtably booked him for the pull, he bottled that 2nd decision big time. Anyway after that we didn't do nearly enough to stop Semenya down our right, I'm more pissed off with that tbh.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #288 on: December 04, 2023, 06:51:57 PM »
Anyway after that we didn't do nearly enough to stop Semenya down our right, I'm more pissed off with that tbh.

On that note, it would be no harm if Doku was out for the game on Weds.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #289 on: December 04, 2023, 07:10:17 PM »
I think the first booking was for dissent ?
the second potential was a clear and blatant booking
maybe he bottled it because the 1st was a bit soft ?

It can't work like that though but yes I agree that's exactly what happened. For me it looked like he was going to go to the pocket and then changed his mind. Regardless of the first the 2nd was a clear booking and it was fucking stupid of the player knowing he was on a yellow and he knows he got away with one.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #290 on: December 04, 2023, 07:15:01 PM »
Anyway after that we didn't do nearly enough to stop Semenya down our right, I'm more pissed off with that tbh.

On that note, it would be no harm if Doku was out for the game on Weds.

Too right it would, that'd be a result for us, no Rodri, Grealish or Doku.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2023, 07:17:11 PM by pauliewalnuts »

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #291 on: December 04, 2023, 07:45:45 PM »
Did anyone see Ref Watch on Sky this morining and if so did they show the sending off that should have been in our game and what did they have to say?  I was out and forgot to record it.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #292 on: December 04, 2023, 07:48:17 PM »
Did anyone see Ref Watch on Sky this morining and if so did they show the sending off that should have been in our game and what did they have to say?  I was out and forgot to record it.
Said it was a blatsnt second yellow but the referee was unfortunate as he couldn't see the incident properly. I'm not sure how they come to that conclusion to be honest, other than Semenya he had the best view in the ground.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #293 on: December 04, 2023, 07:52:14 PM »
It was a bit disjointed. But we kept going.

Bournemouth we’re much better than I thought they’d be.

They’re hitting a decent patch of form.

As they showed with the stats on MOTD, it's starting to come together for Bournemouth and Iraola. I suspect it's an away point gained that will look better as the season progresses (whereas the defeat at Forest will look even worse).

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #294 on: December 04, 2023, 07:52:18 PM »
Did anyone see Ref Watch on Sky this morining and if so did they show the sending off that should have been in our game and what did they have to say?  I was out and forgot to record it.
Said it was a blatsnt second yellow but the referee was unfortunate as he couldn't see the incident properly. I'm not sure how they come to that conclusion to be honest, other than Semenya he had the best view in the ground.

Thanks Luke.  The ref couldn't see it properly?  The shirt that was twice its natural width having been pulled so; would have been a bit of a giveaway wouldn't it?

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #295 on: December 04, 2023, 09:48:40 PM »
Did anyone see Ref Watch on Sky this morining and if so did they show the sending off that should have been in our game and what did they have to say?  I was out and forgot to record it.
Said it was a blatsnt second yellow but the referee was unfortunate as he couldn't see the incident properly. I'm not sure how they come to that conclusion to be honest, other than Semenya he had the best view in the ground.

Thanks Luke.  The ref couldn't see it properly?  The shirt that was twice its natural width having been pulled so; would have been a bit of a giveaway wouldn't it?

I watched Ref Watch as well, and he did look like he might be unsighted. Warnock agreed, but thought he should have been able to tell from the way our player fell.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #296 on: December 04, 2023, 11:11:56 PM »
As someone who too many years ago scored a few headed goals I can safely say that Watkins header was up there with the very best. The ball was a little behind him and it was pure brilliance that he could manouver himself to control the flight.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #297 on: December 05, 2023, 08:56:58 AM »
As someone who too many years ago scored a few headed goals I can safely say that Watkins header was up there with the very best. The ball was a little behind him and it was pure brilliance that he could manouver himself to control the flight.

That header was something Andy Gray was very proficient at.  He would have been proud.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #298 on: December 05, 2023, 10:24:02 AM »
Id the ref couldn't see it isn't that the point of VAR to correct things missed by the ref? If a player headbutts another but the ref doesn't see it surely we're not saying VAR can't get involved because the ref hasn't seen it?

I'm totally confused by VAR.

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Re: Bournemouth - 2 Aston Villa - 2 Post-Match
« Reply #299 on: December 05, 2023, 10:38:40 AM »
Id the ref couldn't see it isn't that the point of VAR to correct things missed by the ref? If a player headbutts another but the ref doesn't see it surely we're not saying VAR can't get involved because the ref hasn't seen it?

I'm totally confused by VAR.

That should be the whole point of it and if the ref has seen an incident, then the VAR official should only intervene if they feel a clear and obvious error has been made.

As it is, we effectively have two referees officiating the game and swapping opinions on a raft of decisions on a regular basis. 

 


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