Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Post Match Thread

[Somniloquism]

Nope, assisted three but no goals.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

The BBC match report says it was Moreno's first goal for Villa. Is that right? I could have sworn he's scored before.

True. I had to check as like you I thought he'd scored.

[olaftab]

The BBC match report says it was Moreno's first goal for Villa. Is that right? I could have sworn he's scored before.

Stadium announcer also said “first goal”.

[langleylions]

What’s the criteria in a tie? Are we level on head to head now? Is it GD?

Yep, if they win and we lose and the margin in 1 of the games is more than a single goal then we'd be 2nd.

It's head to head, not GD. Legia scored more goals in our 2 ties so would be above us.

Errr no the goals count is actually 4- 4

[AV84]

Well that makes it even better. What a way to mark your comeback after nearly 7 months out.

[Somniloquism]

Kamara's blip. No excuse, you can see him glance around both directions before he gets the ball, with looking towards Cash the last he does before receiving it. How he didn't see the player in a white shirt there as well god knows.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

Missed the first goal due to the queues, was waiting for at least 30 minutes to get in.

[Somniloquism]

Missed the first goal due to the queues, was waiting for at least 30 minutes to get it.

From the other thread, it sounded like individual Legia fans were trying to sneak in so I suspect there was more individual checking at the gates. Plus half the North Stand gates were closed if you were trying there.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

Missed the first goal due to the queues, was waiting for at least 30 minutes to get it.

From the other thread, it sounded like individual Legia fans were trying to sneak in so I suspect there was more individual checking at the gates. Plus half the North Stand gates were closed if you were trying there.

This was Trinity Rd. Understand the increase in security but employing a few more staff would have been helpful.

[Somniloquism]

Going back to the group standings, if Alkmaar wins, they go second due to their head to head matches against Legia so they have everything still to play for, including pride as they got to the Semi finals last year.

[tomd2103]

If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied in the order given to determine their rankings:

a: higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question;

b: superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question;

c: higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question;

if, after having applied criteria a) to c), teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the remaining teams to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to k) apply in the order given to the two or more teams still equal;

d:superior goal difference in all group matches;

f: higher number of goals scored in all group matches;

g: higher number of away goals scored in all group matches;

h: higher number of wins in all group matches;

i: higher number of away wins in all group matches;

k: lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received by players and team officials in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points);

higher club coefficient (see Annex D).

I'm pretty sure we are even across the first three items so they then compare how we played against Mostar and Alkmar.

Even the above is a bit confusing, as it says if two teams can't be split by a) - c) then it goes in order from e) -k) byt there is no e) on the list!!

From that, I make it that we just need a point in the last game to win the group.  Legia Warsaw need to win and us to lose to be level on points.  Should that happen, we wouldn't be able to be split using a) - c) so the next criteria on the list would be d) which is goal difference in all matches.  We are currently 3 goals ahead of them, so it would need more than a 3 goal swing in their favour.  Let's say they win 2-0 and we lose 1-0, it would be level again and then goes to goals scored in the group and we are currently 3 ahead of them on that.

Think that's right!!

[Matt C]

Another nice win and like the majority of these group games, felt like we did it without ever fully exerting ourselves. Great to see Moreno and Ramsey back, thought Lenglet had a very decent game too.

[adrenachrome]

Another nice win and like the majority of these group games, felt like we did it without ever fully exerting ourselves. Great to see Moreno and Ramsey back, thought Lenglet had a very decent game too.

Pretty much my reaction, although much of the first half was frustratingly tedious. As soon as we drop out of top gear, this tends to happen.

[tomd2103]

Kamara's blip. No excuse, you can see him glance around both directions before he gets the ball, with looking towards Cash the last he does before receiving it. How he didn't see the player in a white shirt there as well god knows.

He is a quality player, but does seem to struggle occasionally when he gets the ball facing his own goal.  He gets caught on the ball or like tonight gives a loose pass.  In contrast, you very rarely see Luiz caught like that.

[Percy McCarthy]

Credit to the Villa fan working at a certain bar in town who arranged for limitless free shots for the LW players on Wednesday night.