Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Post Match Thread

[eamonn]

Has Emi ever pinged a ball over the top like that from Olsen? Robin lives on !

[CT Villan]

Much improved second half, deserved the win. Now hopefully everyone gets home safe and sound.

[ez]

Legia need us to lose our last game.

[nigel]

What’s the criteria in a tie? Are we level on head to head now? Is it GD?

Legia win if we finish level on points. A point against Mostar we top the group. Legia don't beat Alkmaar, we top the group even if we lost to Mostar.

And Alkmaar go through, due to head to head, if they win

[AV84]

If we finish level on points with Legia (meaning we lose and they win their last game) it goes to head to head, which is why we needed to win by 2 goals tonight.

A win or a draw and we top the table.
A loss and a Legia win, we finish 2nd.

[JD]

What’s the criteria in a tie? Are we level on head to head now? Is it GD?

Yep, if they win and we lose and the margin in 1 of the games is more than a single goal then we'd be 2nd.

It's head to head, not GD. Legia scored more goals in our 2 ties so would be above us.

no they didn't, we both scored 4.


I was slight wrong though, it only works with a 3 goal swing if they win in a high scoring games.

That's right. Maybe it would come down to GD then.

[paul_e]

If we finish level on points with Legia (meaning we lose and they win their last game) it goes to head to head, which is why we needed to win by 2 goals tonight.

A win or a draw and we top the table.
A loss and a Legia win, we finish 2nd.

head to head is a 1 ghoal win for them and a 1 goal win for us, so it goes to overall goal difference.

[Steve67]

Dirty side.  How the hell their number 55 was allowed to batter people to order was shite.  Two nice Villa goals.  We win, well done.

Anyone know the attendance?

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Legia need to win and they would need us to lose. Anything else and we've won the group.
Just a slight disappointment as another goal tonight would have meant the last game was a dead rubber and the 1st team wouldn't have needed to even travel.

[AV84]

If we finish level on points with Legia (meaning we lose and they win their last game) it goes to head to head, which is why we needed to win by 2 goals tonight.

A win or a draw and we top the table.
A loss and a Legia win, we finish 2nd.

head to head is a 1 ghoal win for them and a 1 goal win for us, so it goes to overall goal difference.

Counting is hard.

Anyway, the overall aim remains the same. At least a point in Mostar and we're fine.

[AV84]

Just a slight disappointment as another goal tonight would have meant the last game was a dead rubber and the 1st team wouldn't have needed to even travel.

Most of them would have had to at least travel, we don't have that big a squad that we could send a "B team" to start and be on the bench.

[Somniloquism]

If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied in the order given to determine their rankings:

a: higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question;

b: superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question;

c: higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question;

if, after having applied criteria a) to c), teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the remaining teams to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to k) apply in the order given to the two or more teams still equal;

d:superior goal difference in all group matches;

f: higher number of goals scored in all group matches;

g: higher number of away goals scored in all group matches;

h: higher number of wins in all group matches;

i: higher number of away wins in all group matches;

k: lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received by players and team officials in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points);

higher club coefficient (see Annex D).

I'm pretty sure we are even across the first three items so they then compare how we played against Mostar and Alkmar.

[brontebilly]

Very good win, deserved the third goal but unfortunately didn't come. Much better second half performance. Lively cameos from Ramsey and Bailey, thought Bailey's first touch tonight was electric.
Olsen 7 - give the guy credit, clearly told at half time to switch it up and go direct more often. Nearly got two assists!
Cash 6 - brutal first half, clearly got a 🚀 at half time. Emery will be fuming with his efforts defending those two late runs
Konsa 8 - very good again really
Lenglet 8 - really impressed me tonight, was totally against his signing
Moreno 8 - brilliant return and goal. What an addition he will be back in the squad
Luiz 8 - class footballer really
Kamara 6 - terrible pass for their goal but rallied well
Tielemans 6 - pass put Diaby away, but a bit flat tonight. Better after the half time switch
McGinn 6 - a game too far but happier back on right combining with Cash
Diaby 8 - back to his best, great finish for goal and lovely throughout
Duran 5 - did improve a lot in second half, badly caught on his heels for one late chance. Fortunate Watkins wasn't on bench

All subs looked sharp bar Donk's tache/smig. Bailey and Ramsey pushing very hard now to get into the PL team

[Meanwood Villa]

If we finish level on points with Legia (meaning we lose and they win their last game) it goes to head to head, which is why we needed to win by 2 goals tonight.

A win or a draw and we top the table.
A loss and a Legia win, we finish 2nd.

head to head is a 1 ghoal win for them and a 1 goal win for us, so it goes to overall goal difference.

Correct. It's a four goal swing effectively because we've scored more than them. Not impossible but improbable.

[TelfordVilla]

They need to win by 3 and us lose