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Offline andyh

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3930 on: May 12, 2024, 07:48:30 AM »
Don't underestimate the local rivalry thing . Spurs will not want to do Arsenal favours and that will have a bearing on events as they unfold .
Please stop this. This is just common bar room talk. It will have no bearing on how Spurs players perform on Tuesday. Any notion that their players will think like their fans is bollocks.
Indeed.
The answer is clear and simple.
We have to do if for ourselves on Monday night.

Offline maidstonevillain

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3931 on: May 12, 2024, 08:02:53 AM »
We need 1 of 4 results to be the one we want. Spurs need all 4 of them. And they have no control over 2 of them. I doubt there's a person on the planet who'd rather be in their position than in ours.

That's a great post gives the context and perspective!
Emery school of positive thought!

Offline maidstonevillain

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3932 on: May 12, 2024, 08:27:28 AM »
We need 1 of 4 results to be the one we want. Spurs need all 4 of them. And they have no control over 2 of them. I doubt there's a person on the planet who'd rather be in their position than in ours.

That's a great post gives the context and perspective!
Emery school of positive thought!

Of course the negative view is that 3 of the 4 results that Spurs need is the more likely result on present form, and they have control over the 4th.

Offline Ads

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3933 on: May 12, 2024, 08:34:08 AM »
No, they don't.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3934 on: May 12, 2024, 08:37:18 AM »
I’d really like us to put the issue to bed on Monday night. If we lose, and Spurs beat Man City (not inconceivable for a team in 5th and at home)

It’s even less inconceivable for the team in 4th to beat the team in 3rd at home.

Offline Risso

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3935 on: May 12, 2024, 08:38:24 AM »

Of course the negative view is that 3 of the 4 results that Spurs need is the more likely result on present form, and they have control over the 4th.

That's the view I'm taking at the moment. Unfortunately, the form we're in, I can't see anything past two defeats in our remaining games. The easiest of our three remaining games which would have seen us over the line with a win was Brighton, but we were absolutely dismal. Spurs will almost certainly beat Sheffield United, so it comes down to Spurs v Man City. On current form, City should smash them, but if they do dredge up a win, then we're done.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3936 on: May 12, 2024, 08:41:21 AM »
Aren't we in better form than Spurs and with the luxury of not playing Man City next? Dont we have a 4 point gap with 10ish goals? But yeah, let's wake up so negative and timid that we contort and contrive Spurs as having the whip hand.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3937 on: May 12, 2024, 08:55:25 AM »
We definitely are in the better position, and no one in their right mind would choose their position over ours. So hopefully the final blow will be delivered tomorrow or Tuesday.

But if it’s live going into the final day given the respective fixtures I think we’ll be in trouble.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2024, 09:00:28 AM by PaulWinch again »

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3938 on: May 12, 2024, 08:57:11 AM »




Agreed, Ads.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3939 on: May 12, 2024, 08:58:30 AM »
City will murder Spurs the way Spurs can't defend.

Then Spurs will beat Sheff Utd. That's Spurs finishing on 66.

We don't even need another point.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3940 on: May 12, 2024, 08:59:06 AM »
We need to forget what spurs fans want. Its what ange and levy want and thats CL football.

Its in our hands still. We need to get results in our last two or pne of them

Offline Risso

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3941 on: May 12, 2024, 09:19:39 AM »
Aren't we in better form than Spurs and with the luxury of not playing Man City next? Dont we have a 4 point gap with 10ish goals? But yeah, let's wake up so negative and timid that we contort and contrive Spurs as having the whip hand.

Notihing to do with being negative or timid, I just think it's a possible outcome based on our hopeless form. We were going to beat Brighton and turn the tie around against Olympiacos, but failed miserably to do so and only managed a couple of shots on target worthy of the name in both games. So it's not really the timidity of other posters you need to worry about, it's the inability of the team do any one aspect of the game well at the moment that's going to knacker us.

I hope you're right of course, but I think three of the four results that 4th place rely on look very likely, so if that is the case we're relying on Man City to beat Spurs. If we do lose to Liverpool, then if you're telling me you won't be nervous in the Spurs v Man City game, well, I'm not sure I'd believe you.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3942 on: May 12, 2024, 09:30:04 AM »
The Spurs / Arsenal thing is important and the mentality of the Spurs fans . For example if they go a goal down I cannot see the home crowd being that motivated to push the players on to fight back , i can see more of a scenario unfolding where the home fan mentality cements into fuck Arsenal we are handing C115y the title let's enjoy this  . That's my hypothesis . And Spurs won't be too disgruntled with Europa League given the ECL is nothing new to them .

Offline maidstonevillain

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3943 on: May 12, 2024, 09:31:52 AM »
An Arsenal win today would help. Otherwise ManC will be getting the beach towels ready by Tuesday.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2024, 09:33:57 AM by maidstonevillain »

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3944 on: May 12, 2024, 09:35:36 AM »
Aren't we in better form than Spurs and with the luxury of not playing Man City next? Dont we have a 4 point gap with 10ish goals? But yeah, let's wake up so negative and timid that we contort and contrive Spurs as having the whip hand.

Notihing to do with being negative or timid, I just think it's a possible outcome based on our hopeless form. We were going to beat Brighton and turn the tie around against Olympiacos, but failed miserably to do so and only managed a couple of shots on target worthy of the name in both games. So it's not really the timidity of other posters you need to worry about, it's the inability of the team do any one aspect of the game well at the moment that's going to knacker us.

I hope you're right of course, but I think three of the four results that 4th place rely on look very likely, so if that is the case we're relying on Man City to beat Spurs. If we do lose to Liverpool, then if you're telling me you won't be nervous in the Spurs v Man City game, well, I'm not sure I'd believe you.

I always get nervous, it would be boring otherwise!

 


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