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Offline LeeB

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3555 on: May 07, 2024, 09:33:42 AM »
I went to Palace last night as my neighbour had a spare ticket. Lots of criticism of a terrible Man Utd team but we shouldn’t forget how well Palace are playing. Hammered the Hammers, won at Anfield, beat Newcastle and then trounced the Redscum. If we need points there on the final day, we won’t get them. They are humming under their new manager and that front three looks superb. They were so direct, so up for it, so confident. If we play like we played against Chelsea, Lille (twice), Olympiakos and Brighton we will lose there, without a doubt.

The atmosphere in Selhurst was tremendous too. We need Man City not to fuck this one up for us. And yes, I’ve taken a healthy punt at 16-1.

And its a place we've been relentlessly shit at regardless of our own abillities.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3556 on: May 07, 2024, 09:34:54 AM »
I went to Palace last night as my neighbour had a spare ticket. Lots of criticism of a terrible Man Utd team but we shouldn’t forget how well Palace are playing. Hammered the Hammers, won at Anfield, beat Newcastle and then trounced the Redscum. If we need points there on the final day, we won’t get them. They are humming under their new manager and that front three looks superb. They were so direct, so up for it, so confident. If we play like we played against Chelsea, Lille (twice), Olympiakos and Brighton we will lose there, without a doubt.

The atmosphere in Selhurst was tremendous too. We need Man City not to fuck this one up for us. And yes, I’ve taken a healthy punt at 16-1.

And its a place we've been relentlessly shit at regardless of our own abillities.

3 home wins in a row for them, we're playing horrendously going to a ground where we've always been horrendous...

Dare we hope for a reverse Brighton?

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3557 on: May 07, 2024, 09:38:02 AM »
I'm resigned to top 4 being all about the potential of Spurs beating City. I just can't see the present Villa squad taking a point from either Liverpool or Palace.
According to adrenachrome, that means you’re probably not a Villa fan…

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3558 on: May 07, 2024, 09:49:23 AM »
Obviously, the 550-mile round trip on Sunday to Brighton leaving at 6 AM and not back until 11PM means I'm just a glory hunter..

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3559 on: May 07, 2024, 09:54:00 AM »
The odds are massively stacked in our favour as we only need one result to go our way.

But with the state of our squad I'm not particularly confident of getting anything from Liverpool or Palace either.  I don't think you have to be a troll or a Bluenose to think that.

I also think Spurs will beat Burnley and have the ability to hammer Sheffield.  So yeah, IF they got a draw at Man City I'd be worried - but I think that's the most unlikely result of the lot.

Sorry to break it to you but it’s at Spurs.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3560 on: May 07, 2024, 09:54:23 AM »
I'm confused, so in the unlikely event that Spurs get a point off City and we don't get a point in the last two games Spurs are going to go on a goal fest their last two games and win on goal average. I always look to the bookies odds to see what they believe, you will get enormous odds if you want to waste your money.

We are currently 7 points ahead with +9 better goal difference having scored 4 more goals then Spurs:

Spurs 2 Burnley 2, Villa 2 Liverpool 1, Spurs 2 City 4, Palace 2 Villa 3, Sheff 0 - Spurs 10


That set of results puts us level on points and GD but gives Spurs a better goals scored and 4th place. Any of those results are likely... of course they ALL have to happen which dramatically increases the odds but they could still happen realistically.

There, I've edited your scores to show something else that could realistically happen too.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3561 on: May 07, 2024, 09:54:47 AM »
The odds are massively stacked in our favour as we only need one result to go our way.

But with the state of our squad I'm not particularly confident of getting anything from Liverpool or Palace either.  I don't think you have to be a troll or a Bluenose to think that.

I also think Spurs will beat Burnley and have the ability to hammer Sheffield.  So yeah, IF they got a draw at Man City I'd be worried - but I think that's the most unlikely result of the lot.

Sorry to break it to you but it’s at Spurs.

Where they've beaten Man City for the last four years.

Offline Ben1505p

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3562 on: May 07, 2024, 09:57:08 AM »
The odds are massively stacked in our favour as we only need one result to go our way.

But with the state of our squad I'm not particularly confident of getting anything from Liverpool or Palace either.  I don't think you have to be a troll or a Bluenose to think that.

I also think Spurs will beat Burnley and have the ability to hammer Sheffield.  So yeah, IF they got a draw at Man City I'd be worried - but I think that's the most unlikely result of the lot.

Sorry to break it to you but it’s at Spurs.

Where they've beaten Man City for the last four years.

Yeah, I saw that... and haven't scored a goal... this is Flangeball though and I suspect that will play into City's hands...

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3563 on: May 07, 2024, 09:58:13 AM »
Spurs have lost 4 on the bounce and conceded shit loads. Why people think they will all go on a sudden, turn into what they aren't, type run I've no idea. They beat Liverpool in September, that's the last decent result they've had. Other than that they have beaten rubbish (and yes, I've included us as that seems to be the view of people who think we won't make it!)

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3564 on: May 07, 2024, 09:58:37 AM »
For me it comes down to the Spurs v City game. I don't see us getting anything from Liverpool or Palace. If Spurs don't lose v Man City they'll get 4th.

Anybody that doesn't think we will get anything from Liverpool or Palace is probably not a Villa fan.
Or form of late has been uneven, but we will strike soon.

I'm not sure how you can come to that conclusion to be honest.  All focus is now shifted to Thursday night and domestic matters temporarily put aside, but I don't think 4th place is cut and dried yet.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3565 on: May 07, 2024, 09:58:39 AM »
The odds are massively stacked in our favour as we only need one result to go our way.

But with the state of our squad I'm not particularly confident of getting anything from Liverpool or Palace either.  I don't think you have to be a troll or a Bluenose to think that.

I also think Spurs will beat Burnley and have the ability to hammer Sheffield.  So yeah, IF they got a draw at Man City I'd be worried - but I think that's the most unlikely result of the lot.

Sorry to break it to you but it’s at Spurs.

Where they've beaten Man City for the last four years.

Bloody hell, I knew they hadn’t won there for a while but I thought there had been a couple of draws at least. That actually makes me feel a bit better - it can’t go on, surely?

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3566 on: May 07, 2024, 09:59:31 AM »
Let's hope not Perce. But if they do, it's going to pay for my holidays this summer!

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3567 on: May 07, 2024, 10:29:39 AM »
Current odds on SkyBet for Top 4:

Villa - 1/33
Spursy Spurs - 11/1

Clearly a lot of Villa fans lumping on Spurs to get those odds down.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3568 on: May 07, 2024, 10:33:24 AM »
Current odds on SkyBet for Top 4:

Villa - 1/33
Spursy Spurs - 11/1

Clearly a lot of Villa fans lumping on Spurs to get those odds down.

To the discerning punter, Palace last night will have had an effect too, on top of the performances of Liverpool and Villa on Sunday.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #3569 on: May 07, 2024, 10:36:25 AM »
I’m not much of an online punter, Betfair will only let me put £26 on Spurs to finish top 4, is that usual?

 


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