Champions League Contention

[Percy McCarthy]

Need to finish the job at Brighton. 

Yes hopefully they will have their deckchairs out for the beach as its Brighton.  I think we will win . Is a draw a bad result especially if Spurzz  dont win against p lop .

Not a bad combination, but would drag it out. I don’t want it dragged out any more. Draws for both clubs would bring the magic number down to 3.

[paul_e]

Haha, sorry mate, I had no idea if you were one of them! I did save a couple in my phone notes but didn’t take note of who posted them. I thought at the time they might come in handy for the Samaritans.

I've never gone to keeping notes but I do keep a mental tally of the people who seem to post significantly more after a defeat than they do after a win. For some I do worry that if they didn't have this forum they'd end up punching a wall or worse, the undirected anger is insane, especially given the context of where we are and how we got here.

[OCD]

Even a point against Brighton would leave Spurs needing to win 3 of 4 to better our total. Their loss last night and the manner in which they did it, with Postecoglou furious and the body language really poor, makes me think they might struggle to get to the total we're currently on. Not out of the question they could be caught by Newcastle for 5th place tbh.

They're in full-on implosion mode, in a way that only Spurs can do.

Then there's talk that Chelsea are getting rid of Pochetino so they can give Conte the job. So that would put them back to square one again.

[Demitri_C]

The majority of the season and Emery's tenure has seen the club be a top four performer. Villa have show some of the best team and player performances at Villa Park in Premier League history.
The levels have at times been among the finest in the last 150 years, both at home and away.

What Emery and Villa are doing is joy and I'm so thrilled, and there may be times when things have been difficult and performance struggles, but the bigger picture is that on the cusp of officially saying Champions League football is coming to Villa Park!!

I dont think anyone is going to say unai is doing anad job as we can all see we have had a wonderful season.

But its mainly been the first halfs been good. 2nd has been quite frankly average to poor.

The disappointing thing for me is that this was our best chance of silverware and i cant believe we look like we have blown it

We haven't been poor at all 2nd half of the season.

We've payed 16, won 8, drawn 4 and lost 4. That's 1.75 points per game, which if extrapolated over 38 games would have us on 66.5, so 67. What we have now, which will probably turn out to be enough for 4th.

That points per game has been achieved largely without our defensive midfielder, with significantly more cup games than anybody bar the 3 teams above us, with the 2nd lowest turn around time for games, and on and on and on.

You have a strange definition of "average and poor".

I've been aware of a drop off in home performances. After the amazing 15 consecutive home Premier League victories, culminating in that marvellous week against Man City and Arsenal, our home league record is:    W  4   D 3  L 3  and we have also lost to Chelsea and now Olympiakos in the cups at Villa Park

Meanwhile our away league record is   W 5 D2 L2 (against the two Manchester clubs)

It's our home form that has dropped a bit ,..but our away performances have largely been excellent.

Given we have two more away league fixtures let's look on the bright side!

Thanks for providing the data.  Its interesting how its changed. We looked unbeatable at home then after beating citeh and arsenal back to back we had a really bad one vs sheff utd then it seems to ahve been where it started going wrong.

[Demitri_C]

Haha, sorry mate, I had no idea if you were one of them! I did save a couple in my phone notes but didn’t take note of who posted them. I thought at the time they might come in handy for the Samaritans.

I've never gone to keeping notes but I do keep a mental tally of the people who seem to post significantly more after a defeat than they do after a win. For some I do worry that if they didn't have this forum they'd end up punching a wall or worse, the undirected anger is insane, especially given the context of where we are and how we got here.

What people need to understand is not every football fan is the same. Some are calm even when you lose ( i wish i was like this) other are more emotional and it helps to vent on a forum. Others might punch walls who knows. As long as you are not abusing anyone i dont care how people respond to a defeat.you are going to always going to get OTT reactions especially from the ones who have not seen us win anything

[paul_e]

Haha, sorry mate, I had no idea if you were one of them! I did save a couple in my phone notes but didn’t take note of who posted them. I thought at the time they might come in handy for the Samaritans.

I've never gone to keeping notes but I do keep a mental tally of the people who seem to post significantly more after a defeat than they do after a win. For some I do worry that if they didn't have this forum they'd end up punching a wall or worse, the undirected anger is insane, especially given the context of where we are and how we got here.

What people need to understand is not every football fan is the same. Some are calm even when you lose ( i wish i was like this) other are more emotional and it helps to vent on a forum. Others might punch walls who knows. As long as you are not abusing anyone i dont care how people respond to a defeat.you are going to always going to get OTT reactions especially from the ones who have not seen us win anything

That's true but why does everyone else have to accept people like you posting a fresh rant about hoew shit everything is every few posts but you don't have to accept them asking you to reign it in a bit? As you say some people feel the need to vent their frustration about the game but for others seeing abuse thrown out about our players every time we're not winning comfortably pisses them off. What you're asking is for the latter group to get over it because you won't change and then acting like a victim when they do the same.

[Percy McCarthy]

Haha, sorry mate, I had no idea if you were one of them! I did save a couple in my phone notes but didn’t take note of who posted them. I thought at the time they might come in handy for the Samaritans.

I've never gone to keeping notes but I do keep a mental tally of the people who seem to post significantly more after a defeat than they do after a win. For some I do worry that if they didn't have this forum they'd end up punching a wall or worse, the undirected anger is insane, especially given the context of where we are and how we got here.

What people need to understand is not every football fan is the same. Some are calm even when you lose ( i wish i was like this) other are more emotional and it helps to vent on a forum. Others might punch walls who knows. As long as you are not abusing anyone i dont care how people respond to a defeat.you are going to always going to get OTT reactions especially from the ones who have not seen us win anything

That's true but why does everyone else have to accept people like you posting a fresh rant about hoew shit everything is every few posts but you don't have to accept them asking you to reign it in a bit? As you say some people feel the need to vent their frustration about the game but for others seeing abuse thrown out about our players every time we're not winning comfortably pisses them off. What you're asking is for the latter group to get over it because you won't change and then acting like a victim when they do the same.

There’s a lot of it about.

[AV82EC]

Something of a confession this, but as somebody who definitely wants to win a trophy and doesn't believe it's either/or, I feel quite relieved by the Chelsea result, to the point where it's taken the sting out of all the silly errors of last night. Maybe it's because we are in control of our destiny in the 2nd leg (we know what we must do and it's executed or it is not). It's not like it was out of our control either after Spurs lost to Arsenal, but it just feels very solid now, tangible.

This i agree with. I think if doug scored thw pen would have given me more hope. Just cant see us over turning a 2-0 deficit I desperately wanted this trophy 😔

We’ve already  come back from 2-0 down against this lot once, we can do it again :-)

I hope so mate. Im so deflated after last night. I never saw that result coming even following greek football.

I said in post match thread - olympiakos have crumbled before. They were crushing  3-0 against fenebache  and then almost drew the game 3-2.

Honestly if we show up and play a fast paced attacking game we could destroy them. But we havebt seen this in european games at all consistently for a whole game or even a half.

Next weeks the time to change that but its gonna be bloody tough. Their fans are incredible as we saw yesterday. Add another 28k  and if our players cant handle it its gonna be another long night.

The key is score early and make them nervous. Its happened before so i dont see why we cabt

You missed the Alkmaar home and away games and the Ajax Home game then?

[ADVILLAFAN]

I'll never forget one poster slagging off 6 of our starting 11, after we dismantled the reigning champions Liverpool 7-2.

If you can't be happy after that, when can you?

[Demitri_C]

Haha, sorry mate, I had no idea if you were one of them! I did save a couple in my phone notes but didn’t take note of who posted them. I thought at the time they might come in handy for the Samaritans.

I've never gone to keeping notes but I do keep a mental tally of the people who seem to post significantly more after a defeat than they do after a win. For some I do worry that if they didn't have this forum they'd end up punching a wall or worse, the undirected anger is insane, especially given the context of where we are and how we got here.

What people need to understand is not every football fan is the same. Some are calm even when you lose ( i wish i was like this) other are more emotional and it helps to vent on a forum. Others might punch walls who knows. As long as you are not abusing anyone i dont care how people respond to a defeat.you are going to always going to get OTT reactions especially from the ones who have not seen us win anything

That's true but why does everyone else have to accept people like you posting a fresh rant about hoew shit everything is every few posts but you don't have to accept them asking you to reign it in a bit? As you say some people feel the need to vent their frustration about the game but for others seeing abuse thrown out about our players every time we're not winning comfortably pisses them off. What you're asking is for the latter group to get over it because you won't change and then acting like a victim when they do the same.

Paul those individuals that you describe are then aggressively told to shut up or like that foolish post singling out three posters and being a complete wet wipe? They are much worse. I always when i may need to vent dont call out or start on anyone.

Most people who rant (and i dont eveey day just for the record have a look at alot of my posts today)

Just ignore the posts you dont like i do that i only respond if someone is being a bit of a dick and just adds a comment like shut up they obviously trying to antagonise.

Just my two cents

[Demitri_C]

Something of a confession this, but as somebody who definitely wants to win a trophy and doesn't believe it's either/or, I feel quite relieved by the Chelsea result, to the point where it's taken the sting out of all the silly errors of last night. Maybe it's because we are in control of our destiny in the 2nd leg (we know what we must do and it's executed or it is not). It's not like it was out of our control either after Spurs lost to Arsenal, but it just feels very solid now, tangible.

This i agree with. I think if doug scored thw pen would have given me more hope. Just cant see us over turning a 2-0 deficit I desperately wanted this trophy 😔

We’ve already  come back from 2-0 down against this lot once, we can do it again :-)

I hope so mate. Im so deflated after last night. I never saw that result coming even following greek football.

I said in post match thread - olympiakos have crumbled before. They were crushing  3-0 against fenebache  and then almost drew the game 3-2.

Honestly if we show up and play a fast paced attacking game we could destroy them. But we havebt seen this in european games at all consistently for a whole game or even a half.

Next weeks the time to change that but its gonna be bloody tough. Their fans are incredible as we saw yesterday. Add another 28k  and if our players cant handle it its gonna be another long night.

The key is score early and make them nervous. Its happened before so i dont see why we cabt

You missed the Alkmaar home and away games and the Ajax Home game then?

How about the AZ home game, the legia games mostar games? Then i would argue the lille ones we didnt dominate those either.

We were 2nd best against lille in both legs and lucky to go through tbf. We havent hit our heights of the league in europe for some reason

[eamonn]

With Spurs' tough run-in, another chastening defeat is very possible. If so, I'm convinced Postecoglu is going to lamp a TV reporter causing him great bodily harm. He despises having to do his media duties and the dumb/difficult questions which have triggered him so far are soon going to send him over the edge.

A disrepute charge from the FA, a visit from the Old Bill and a mutual parting of the ways this summer. Making way for Spurs' new manager next season - I give you - Eric Ten Haag!

[paul_e]

Paul those individuals that you describe are then aggressively told to shut up or like that foolish post singling out three posters and being a complete wet wipe? They are much worse. I always when i may need to vent dont call out or start on anyone.

Most people who rant (and i dont eveey day just for the record have a look at alot of my posts today)

Just ignore the posts you dont like i do that i only respond if someone is being a bit of a dick and just adds a comment like shut up they obviously trying to antagonise.

Just my two cents

Which is a lot of words to say you don't care if you annoy people but not explaining why you think they're being dicks if they annoy you.

[PeterWithesShin]

This time next week we'll be in the CL and a European final.

[Demitri_C]

Paul those individuals that you describe are then aggressively told to shut up or like that foolish post singling out three posters and being a complete wet wipe? They are much worse. I always when i may need to vent dont call out or start on anyone.

Most people who rant (and i dont eveey day just for the record have a look at alot of my posts today)

Just ignore the posts you dont like i do that i only respond if someone is being a bit of a dick and just adds a comment like shut up they obviously trying to antagonise.

Just my two cents

Which is a lot of words to say you don't care if you annoy people but not explaining why you think they're being dicks if they annoy you.

You are being a dick if you just tell someone to shut up and thats all.

You wouldnt do that in real life so i dont see how its acceptable or good manners on a forum.

Someone venting about a game is not attacking anyone like the above comment thats the difference for me.

Im all for engaging on differing opinions but in a respectful way like how me and you are engaging now