Champions League Contention

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm not sure i'd be sniffy about the CL if we were on the brink of missing out for the 4th time in 5 years.

[ez]

[devil's advocate]

Their feelings towards Champions League qualification are probably a bit more blasé than ours. They've played in it, what, six times over the last decade or so, including a run to the final?

So while I'm sure they'd much rather be in it than not, it would be understandable if they don't see it as quite as big a deal as we do.

[/devil's advocate]

Amazingly I've heard villa fans say they'd rather us win the conference league than finish top 4.

Amazing. Villa fans want to win a trophy ahead of finishing behind 3 other teams? Mad.

If it were merely finishing behind 3 other teams I would agree but as you know it isn't just that.

[Olneythelonely]

[devil's advocate]

Their feelings towards Champions League qualification are probably a bit more blasé than ours. They've played in it, what, six times over the last decade or so, including a run to the final?

So while I'm sure they'd much rather be in it than not, it would be understandable if they don't see it as quite as big a deal as we do.

[/devil's advocate]

Amazingly I've heard villa fans say they'd rather us win the conference league than finish top 4.

Amazing. Villa fans want to win a trophy ahead of finishing behind 3 other teams? Mad.

If it were merely finishing behind 3 other teams I would agree but as you know it isn't just that.

I know it’s not going to lead to adding to our trophy haul, in all likelihood.

I want both, badly. But I don’t think people preferring a trophy is as weird as you made out.

[LeeB]

[devil's advocate]

Their feelings towards Champions League qualification are probably a bit more blasé than ours. They've played in it, what, six times over the last decade or so, including a run to the final?

So while I'm sure they'd much rather be in it than not, it would be understandable if they don't see it as quite as big a deal as we do.

[/devil's advocate]

Amazingly I've heard villa fans say they'd rather us win the conference league than finish top 4.

Amazing. Villa fans want to win a trophy ahead of finishing behind 3 other teams? Mad.

If it were merely finishing behind 3 other teams I would agree but as you know it isn't just that.

I know it’s not going to lead to adding to our trophy haul, in all likelihood.

I want both, badly. But I don’t think people preferring a trophy is as weird as you made out.

Yeah, surely the weird thing is the other way around?

[ChicagoLion]

Neither position is wrong or right.
Neither opinion makes you a better or worse supporter.

[ez]

[devil's advocate]

Their feelings towards Champions League qualification are probably a bit more blasé than ours. They've played in it, what, six times over the last decade or so, including a run to the final?

So while I'm sure they'd much rather be in it than not, it would be understandable if they don't see it as quite as big a deal as we do.

[/devil's advocate]

Amazingly I've heard villa fans say they'd rather us win the conference league than finish top 4.

Amazing. Villa fans want to win a trophy ahead of finishing behind 3 other teams? Mad.

If it were merely finishing behind 3 other teams I would agree but as you know it isn't just that.

I know it’s not going to lead to adding to our trophy haul, in all likelihood.

I want both, badly. But I don’t think people preferring a trophy is as weird as you made out.

Yeah, surely the weird thing is the other way around?

If we were in mid table then fair enough but this is the closest I've ever seen us get to qualifying for the champions league. I'd be gutted to see us miss out this time. Much more gutted than not winning the conference league. But yes hopefully we'll achieve both and everyone will be happy.

[Footy-Vill]

I’d have Son, Udogie, Van De Ven, maybe Bissouma and Bentancur in our squad. That is all I reckon.

Bissouma is inconsistent as fuck according to one of my Spurs supporting mates. Drifts in & out of games & not a patch on any of our central midfielders.

I would have Son for the LM, Pedro Porro for RB, Udogie for LB & maybe Van de Ven as the RCB... At a push.

The rest? All Villa...

I never rated Bissouma when loads on here thought we should be signing him. He's ok but as you say drifts in and out of games too much.

I'd also say no to Udogie, he's a good player but no better than what we have really. Porro on the other hand would add depth in one of our weakest positions and is a lot better than Cash (even though I don't think Cash is as bad as a lot make him out to be).

Van de Ven has a similar problem to Udogie, he's very good but with Torres and Mings I think we're well covered there.

In general I don't think there are many players in their squad that are significantly better (or worse) than we have in the same position.

Watkins is clearly the best centre forward across the squads, Son is clearly the best left winger, Porro is clearly the best right back and Konsa is clearly the best right centre back. After that is probably mostly personal preference, we all think Emi is miles better than Vicario but given they're probably the 2 best keepers in the league right now I think it's fine to say wither would be a fantastic option for any team.

I'm sorry I must take issue with that Paul, I think Vicario is shite.

Is correct.
Alison and Ederson and Ortega are miles better.
Pickford is better, Raya is  better than Vicario and even Onana.
Vicario is a liability and is a weak link!
That's a lack of insight to suggest he's top two keepers poor form Paule

[paul_e]

Neither position is wrong but I think 4th is more important for the short-term future of the club than winning the conference league. Either way I think missing out on 4th would take a massive fuck up from here when you consider who Spurs have left to play, even a win and draw from our last 3 makes it very tough for them.

[Footy-Vill]

Neither position is wrong but I think 4th is more important for the short-term future of the club than winning the conference league. Either way I think missing out on 4th would take a massive fuck up from here when you consider who Spurs have left to play, even a win and draw from our last 3 makes it very tough for them.

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Yes 4th is the preference and Champions league football. With that it is the key to the club moving forward, bringing in better players and becoming the true great team.

[Drummond]

Nope. Trophies. League position means nothing.

[ez]

Neither position is wrong but I think 4th is more important for the short-term future of the club than winning the conference league. Either way I think missing out on 4th would take a massive fuck up from here when you consider who Spurs have left to play, even a win and draw from our last 3 makes it very tough for them.

That
Yes 4th is the preference and Champions league football. With that it is the key to the club moving forward, bringing in better players and becoming the true great team.

Agree. Also important for keeping our best players.

[paul_e]

Nope. Trophies. League position means nothing.

It means a huge amount of extra revenue, it means a better pool of players we can sign and it means we're in a better position to keep our best players.

[Clampy]

Nope. Trophies. League position means nothing.

Like Paul said, in terms of Champions League it could make a difference but I get the trophy argument.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Nope. Trophies. League position means nothing.

Tell that to Chris Heck. I'd certainly agree with you if our comercial revenue was anywhere close to those we're challenging against. £35m for the CL is not to be sniffed at. That said, I want both.

[PeterWithesShin]

Most important to the club is CL. Most important to most fans is a trophy.

We'll do both anyway so we'll all be happy.