Champions League Contention

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Basically, Man U have to win 4 of their last 7 to overtake us - IF we don't pick up another point.

They don't have the toughest run-in, and they're jammy bastards, so it's feasible that they could achieve that.

I think another win will sew up 5th.  I think Spurs have more winnable games than we do, so they'll get 4th.

2 points out their last 3 games, 2 of which they were battered in suggests they won't.

[IFWaters]

The maximum Man Utd can get is now 70 points. Of the other teams around them, the maximum, win every game is 68. I think in a couple of weeks we will only need 65 points to guarantee 5th, which depending on European results may well then be enough for Champions League next season. It should be a lot clearer after we've played Bournemouth, win that and we could be only a win away from guaranteed Champions League.

In fact if we do get to guarantee Champions League then I think we could go on to 4th and a European trophy, we won't have anything to lose. Nerves have dogged this team but others may take away our nerves for us.

[john e]

Man Utd have got 2 easy games at home where they will take maximum points Sheff Utd &  Burnley
The rest of them and the way they are playing could drop points in any of them

We have 2 games against Arsenal and Liverpool where I doubt we’ll get anything
Every other game (4) we are capable of picking up points

So the 11 point gap might get shorter but I think it will be enough as United will run out of games

[PeterWithesShin]

Man Utd have won 1 of the last 6, it's unlikely they'll suddenly win a load of their last 7.

[Martyn Smith]

The maximum Man Utd can get is now 70 points. Of the other teams around them, the maximum, win every game is 68. I think in a couple of weeks we will only need 65 points to guarantee 5th, which depending on European results may well then be enough for Champions League next season. It should be a lot clearer after we've played Bournemouth, win that and we could be only a win away from guaranteed Champions League.

In fact if we do get to guarantee Champions League then I think we could go on to 4th and a European trophy, we won't have anything to lose. Nerves have dogged this team but others may take away our nerves for us.

Bournemouth is a massive game. They have almost unnoticed been creeping up the table of late and sit on the far fringes of European contention. Certainly they are a lot nearer to Europe than relegation. They will be up for it and we need to be at our best. Glad I've git a ticket

[Richard]

Advantage Spurs for now, however their next 5 are I believe Newcastle (a), Arsenal (h), Chelsea (a), Liverpool (a), Man City    (h) before their piss easy final 2 games.

[itbrvilla]

Interesting tool this:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/tabellenachminuten/wettbewerb/GB1?saison_id=2023&range=HT%3B60%27&time_start=HZ&time_end=60

Have a look at the table for 45-60 minutes...

[Beard82]

Interesting tool this:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/tabellenachminuten/wettbewerb/GB1?saison_id=2023&range=HT%3B60%27&time_start=HZ&time_end=60

Have a look at the table for 45-60 minutes...

Compare that to 0 - 45.  Does this mean that Unai's HT team talks are awful?

[Brazilian Villain]

Bournemouth is a massive game. They have almost unnoticed been creeping up the table of late and sit on the far fringes of European contention. Certainly they are a lot nearer to Europe than relegation. They will be up for it and we need to be at our best. Glad I've git a ticket

Just as well Yanited have to play them away next week then.

[DB]

Pretty much resigned getting 5th now and still getting CL that way. Spuds have a tough run in but we are not in good shape, missing players over the season is taking its toll. Really missing Kamara and a settled defence.

[PaulWinch again]

A surprise win against Arsenal would be nice. Everything seems to be going perfectly for them (and I hope that continues in Europe), but a classic Arsenal collapse in the league would be good.

[Somniloquism]

Interesting tool this:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/tabellenachminuten/wettbewerb/GB1?saison_id=2023&range=HT%3B60%27&time_start=HZ&time_end=60

Have a look at the table for 45-60 minutes...

Compare that to 0 - 45.  Does this mean that Unai's HT team talks are awful?

TBH, we know we let in too many after half time.

• We are winning so what changes should he make to the winning formula so does that breed complacency in the team?
• Does he try to talk tactics for second half based on anticipated changes and the players heads are spinning?
• Are the other managers firing up the losing team and making changes that targets the weaknesses?

I supect a combo of all three, and being as we manage to bring the results back around usually to be winning again, Emery can usually counter the HT changes.

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4th is far from over.

But 5th, Champions League football and a trophy? Yeah, go on then.

[Brazilian Villain]

4th is far from over.

But 5th, Champions League football and a trophy? Yeah, go on then.

That's where I'm at, and I'm pretty relaxed about achieving it. No win in the next 4 games would leave me feeling a bit despondent though.

[PaulWinch again]

It’s 5th being confirmed as Champions League that’s key. Clearly we need to win in the Conference League, but we need West Ham, Citeh, and Arsenal to turn up.