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Offline Ads

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #765 on: February 12, 2024, 10:23:40 AM »
Alright your arse has dropped out. We get it.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #766 on: February 12, 2024, 10:40:15 AM »
I think we looked a bit “Spursy” yesterday - played well to an extent, but didn’t get the job done. Ironic given Spurs gritted out a win over the weekend.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #767 on: February 12, 2024, 10:55:06 AM »
I got criticised for saying today was pivotal.

It was. I have no idea how anyone could say otherwise.

Really? They are still 5 points behind us. There's a point between us and Spuds.

We have Digne returning, Ramsey coming into form, Moreno getting better, Torres almost ready and Konsa to return too.

We played really well yesterday and we absolutely hammered Sheffield United last weekend.

11 points would have killed their hopes now its down to 5 which is absolutely nothing.

It was a disastrous result for us im afraid 😨

If we were 5 points behind, there's no way you'd be saying 'it's nothing'.

And how is it a disaster?

A disaster would be if the rumours about Konsa and Kamara having ACL tears were true.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #768 on: February 12, 2024, 10:59:39 AM »
I think we looked a bit “Spursy” yesterday - played well to an extent, but didn’t get the job done. Ironic given Spurs gritted out a win over the weekend.
Spursy is when it really matters and they can take it to the next level they fail. 

We call it Typical Villa - when it really matters we blow it somehow.  Yesterday was typical Villa

Spurs regualrly get into the UCL because there threshold for when spursy comes into play is higher than when our threshold for Typical Villa comes into play
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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #769 on: February 12, 2024, 12:14:37 PM »
I think we looked a bit “Spursy” yesterday - played well to an extent, but didn’t get the job done. Ironic given Spurs gritted out a win over the weekend.
Spursy is when it really matters and they can take it to the next level they fail. 

We call it Typical Villa - when it really matters we blow it somehow.  Yesterday was typical Villa

Spurs regualrly get into the UCL because there threshold for when spursy comes into play is higher than when our threshold for Typical Villa comes into play

Not sure I see the distinction really. The one positive - as has been highlighted - is the overall performance was much better than recent home games, we had much more intensity about us. Hopefully it is a launch pad, but there’s no getting away from the fact we’ve won three games since Christmas, and they were against Championship or Championship in waiting teams. It’s been pretty dismal for a side that is trying to fight near the top end of the table. Fingers crossed we can take the good bits from yesterday and build in a clinical edge and a bit of fortitude in defence. But we need to start stringing some wins together.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #770 on: February 12, 2024, 12:19:14 PM »
I think we looked a bit “Spursy” yesterday - played well to an extent, but didn’t get the job done. Ironic given Spurs gritted out a win over the weekend.
Spursy is when it really matters and they can take it to the next level they fail. 

We call it Typical Villa - when it really matters we blow it somehow.  Yesterday was typical Villa

Spurs regualrly get into the UCL because there threshold for when spursy comes into play is higher than when our threshold for Typical Villa comes into play
Typical Villa to me after watching since the mid 90s is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, or over the last 15 years being the team you need to play to end a bad run/record/drought etc.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #771 on: February 12, 2024, 12:37:09 PM »
There's 'Typical Villa' and there's 'Typical Villa v Man United'.  It has its own genre.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #772 on: February 12, 2024, 01:07:52 PM »
I'd rather have the points on the board than the momentum especially if the gap is 5 (effectively 6) plus we're only a point behind Spurs with them to come at home.

It's in our hands still and for a 6 week wobble that goes to show how impressive a haul it was, the amount of points we racked up between August and December.

Torres and Ramsey are key to the run-in for me. If we can keep them fit, we'll carve teams open at will.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #773 on: February 12, 2024, 01:28:19 PM »
Stephen Warnock's a believer, mate! https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68269251

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #774 on: February 12, 2024, 02:21:00 PM »
Of course everyone pointing out that there are plenty of games left and that we're in the better position are right but we've seen this show before too many times. Qualifying for the CL is what teams like Man Utd and Spurs do. Fluffing the opportunity to do so is what teams like us, West Ham and Leicester (thinking of recent examples) do.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #775 on: February 12, 2024, 02:23:40 PM »
I'm clinging on to the idea that previous Villa sides, when on a terrible run, wouldn't have gone to even the bottom team and won 5-0. That's all I've got.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #776 on: February 12, 2024, 02:26:24 PM »
Cling onto 5 points
Cling onto 18 goals
Cling onto Torres
Cling onto JJ
Cling onto Fulham, Forest and Luton up next
Cling onto Unai
Cling onto Leon Bailey
Cling onto anything but this mental fragility of peecieved known truths, rooted in nothing more than other teams and other managers experiences, that has neither influence nor impact on how many we're going to rack up on Saturday.

Let's fucking goooooooooo

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #777 on: February 12, 2024, 02:29:17 PM »
Of course everyone pointing out that there are plenty of games left and that we're in the better position are right but we've seen this show before too many times. Qualifying for the CL is what teams like Man Utd and Spurs do. Fluffing the opportunity to do so is what teams like us, West Ham and Leicester (thinking of recent examples) do.

Spurs have qualified for the CL once in the last five seasons.  They were regulars in the 2015-2019 period in which Premier league football was irrelevant, but recently? Not so much.  Man Utd qualified last year, but missed out the year before that.

I would much rather in our position than Man Utds.  Sure, they've got more money and bigger squads, but we've got the points on the board. I'd prefer more, but even after a pretty horrendous run with only 2 wins in the last 7, we're STILL right in the mix.

Last season we lost three on the bounce around mid-Feb, and then went on a brilliant run that took us up to 7th.  I still believe we're capable of putting together a similar run of results that gets us into CL.  Whether that's 4th or 5th.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #778 on: February 12, 2024, 02:38:28 PM »
I got criticised for saying today was pivotal.

It was. I have no idea how anyone could say otherwise.

Really? They are still 5 points behind us. There's a point between us and Spuds.

We have Digne returning, Ramsey coming into form, Moreno getting better, Torres almost ready and Konsa to return too.

We played really well yesterday and we absolutely hammered Sheffield United last weekend.

11 points would have killed their hopes now its down to 5 which is absolutely nothing.

It was a disastrous result for us im afraid 😨

If we were 5 points behind, there's no way you'd be saying 'it's nothing'.

And how is it a disaster?

A disaster would be if the rumours about Konsa and Kamara having ACL tears were true.

Ok you can claim to not be worried about it the fact is the gaps shrinking, we aint winning enough games while utd and spurs have. 5 points is nothing. Absolutely nothing. We were miles ahead of spurs at one point but guess who is now above us? 

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #779 on: February 12, 2024, 02:41:30 PM »
I think we looked a bit “Spursy” yesterday - played well to an extent, but didn’t get the job done. Ironic given Spurs gritted out a win over the weekend.
i wonder if Spurs fans have a noun for being a bit Villa (Villary ?)

 


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