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Offline Brend'Watkins

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2023, 12:15:14 AM »
It's not about the politics of envy or maximising revenue (which in this case is miniscule anyway). It's alienating the existing supporter base at a time when we should all be buzzing.

Agree. Someone has got it into their head that commercial income is right up there in terms of importance. Income should match our lofty status instantly with little regard for what has gone before. Commercial income is important but it will not be achieved to any great extent until we have a consistent performing team winning things and consistently in the top 6, 5 years minimum but realistically more like 10 years to nab those with the resource to keep paying top whack. I’m loving what’s happening on the pitch, I love our manager, players and even coaches. I’m undecided about our management.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2023, 09:43:32 AM »
The politics of envy is rife in society not just football. Unless those who can afford upgraded services are not cocks about it and rub people's noses in it, then I see no problem.

If I see a guy in a top car and he has got it through hard work etc I don't think " he shouldn't have that the rich wanker" I would want to know how he got it and hoped it inspired me to achieve what he has.

With our ground expansion plans being only a moderate increase in bums on seats they need to see where they can maximise revenue streams accordingly. The easiest way is to offer greater experience for higher value. If it was set at £50 a ticket for everyone then tickets alone is not a great payback. Corporate money is where the bigger returns are.

Not everybody measures themselves against the accumulation of material wealth.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2023, 09:46:16 AM »
It's not about the politics of envy or maximising revenue (which in this case is miniscule anyway). It's alienating the existing supporter base at a time when we should all be buzzing.

Agree. Someone has got it into their head that commercial income is right up there in terms of importance. Income should match our lofty status instantly with little regard for what has gone before. Commercial income is important but it will not be achieved to any great extent until we have a consistent performing team winning things and consistently in the top 6, 5 years minimum but realistically more like 10 years to nab those with the resource to keep paying top whack. I’m loving what’s happening on the pitch, I love our manager, players and even coaches. I’m undecided about our management.
Undecided?
I think the jury is in a position to reach a verdict on those responsible for the crest, the Lower Grounds, The Terrace, the shit kits and  the catering.

Offline RamboandBruno

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2023, 02:11:39 PM »
The politics of envy is rife in society not just football. Unless those who can afford upgraded services are not cocks about it and rub people's noses in it, then I see no problem.

If I see a guy in a top car and he has got it through hard work etc I don't think " he shouldn't have that the rich wanker" I would want to know how he got it and hoped it inspired me to achieve what he has.

With our ground expansion plans being only a moderate increase in bums on seats they need to see where they can maximise revenue streams accordingly. The easiest way is to offer greater experience for higher value. If it was set at £50 a ticket for everyone then tickets alone is not a great payback. Corporate money is where the bigger returns are.

Not everybody measures themselves against the accumulation of material wealth.

I disagree with you and so does my Butler

How do you know the bloke with the great car worked hard to get it. What about the people who work incredibly hard, say in the NHS keeping all of us alive and well and get paid shit money. The politics of envy is a garbage right wing argument normally used to justify huge inequalities in wealth distribution.
In terms of the Villa, we do need to compete, but hey lets corporatise the lot and see where that gets us, I would guess football in a souless bowl and feck the lot of us who have spent a lifetime going to matches.

I know and like people who have terrace view season tickets, purchased through their own company, they support the Villa but would otherwise be the types who go to a handful of games a season. As said i like the people I’m talking about, but fill the ground with them and it will be a vacuum to loyalty.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2023, 02:20:17 PM »
Spot on.
"Bastard offspring" I love that

Offline Risso

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2023, 03:56:21 PM »
Booing mentions of the Terrace View and Lower Grounds, well that's fair enough if that's what you want to do. Booing other fans for daring to use them? Absolute wanker behaviour, that.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2023, 07:15:55 PM »
got a mate flying over for the Sheff Utd game , bringing his young son to Villa for first time ever. Looks like their only option of getting 2 seats together is via LG or TV. Should get some interesting feedback

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2023, 07:50:06 PM »
The politics of envy is rife in society not just football. Unless those who can afford upgraded services are not cocks about it and rub people's noses in it, then I see no problem.

If I see a guy in a top car and he has got it through hard work etc I don't think " he shouldn't have that the rich wanker" I would want to know how he got it and hoped it inspired me to achieve what he has.

With our ground expansion plans being only a moderate increase in bums on seats they need to see where they can maximise revenue streams accordingly. The easiest way is to offer greater experience for higher value. If it was set at £50 a ticket for everyone then tickets alone is not a great payback. Corporate money is where the bigger returns are.

Not everybody measures themselves against the accumulation of material wealth.

I disagree with you and so does my Butler

Haha

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2023, 08:16:46 PM »
got a mate flying over for the Sheff Utd game , bringing his young son to Villa for first time ever. Looks like their only option of getting 2 seats together is via LG or TV. Should get some interesting feedback

If they become members they will be fine, likewise if they know a season ticket holder there's a window they can buy tickets for them. Not much availability in the Holte granted but plenty in the other three stands.

Offline colin69

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2023, 08:26:19 PM »
I’ve received an email this evening telling me as a season ticket holder I can enter a ballot to receive complimentary tickets to the Lower Grounds before the Man City and Arsenal games.
Think I’ll just have the usual 2 cans in the park  instead.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2023, 08:49:13 PM »
I’ve received an email this evening telling me as a season ticket holder I can enter a ballot to receive complimentary tickets to the Lower Grounds before the Man City and Arsenal games.
Think I’ll just have the usual 2 cans in the park  instead.

With my cynical head on I'd think even Legion would win this ballot.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2023, 08:44:54 AM »
got a mate flying over for the Sheff Utd game , bringing his young son to Villa for first time ever. Looks like their only option of getting 2 seats together is via LG or TV. Should get some interesting feedback

Are the tickets on sale yet?

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2023, 09:56:51 AM »
got a mate flying over for the Sheff Utd game , bringing his young son to Villa for first time ever. Looks like their only option of getting 2 seats together is via LG or TV. Should get some interesting feedback

Are the tickets on sale yet?
not yet , i think as a ST holder you can only buy 1 extra ticket ? thats why i told them TV or LG was their best bet for getting x2 seats together

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2023, 09:58:14 AM »
got a mate flying over for the Sheff Utd game , bringing his young son to Villa for first time ever. Looks like their only option of getting 2 seats together is via LG or TV. Should get some interesting feedback

Are the tickets on sale yet?
not yet , i think as a ST holder you can only buy 1 extra ticket ? thats why i told them TV or LG was their best bet for getting x2 seats together

Then how do you know he won't get two together if they're not on sale?

Offline bill

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2023, 10:09:08 AM »
I’ve got two grandkids, who’ve started to express an interest in going to a match.Have to say when I was their age my old man just took me down and paid two bob to get me in. Those days are long gone. But it’s important I get them down, they’re the next generation of supporters. Getting 3 seats together is almost an impossibility these days. So it looks like I might have to bite the bullet and fork out to let them experience Villa Park. It’s just the way it is. Anybody booing my grandkids had better tread carefully if I see them later though.

 


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