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Offline dave.woodhall

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Doing the right thing
« on: November 17, 2023, 02:13:40 PM »
Because there's always room for complaints.

https://heroesandvillains.info/2023/11/17/doing-the-right-thing/

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2023, 02:36:20 PM »
Done.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2023, 02:52:51 PM »
Spot on Dave.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2023, 03:01:10 PM »
You've nailed it there Dave.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2023, 03:13:54 PM »
Spot on Dave, I know it’s not just our club but we have a right to expect them as custodians to behave properly….i’m completely of the mind that they don’t want season ticket holders or they want to make the number substantially dwindle.  Particularly in the era of online ticket sales / tickets on phones…they want a ground full of match by match purchasers who haven’t been ground down by shit service for decades and will happily shell out for the garbage offerings.  Whether they have that market won’t be tested whilst we are winning every week but I would be highly surprised if this summer doesn’t bring another big hike in ticket prices to try and shed some more of the old guard.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2023, 03:22:30 PM »
Spot on Dave and, it will all end in tears if the hierarchy aren’t careful.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2023, 04:18:19 PM »
The politics of envy is rife in society not just football. Unless those who can afford upgraded services are not cocks about it and rub people's noses in it, then I see no problem.

If I see a guy in a top car and he has got it through hard work etc I don't think " he shouldn't have that the rich wanker" I would want to know how he got it and hoped it inspired me to achieve what he has.

With our ground expansion plans being only a moderate increase in bums on seats they need to see where they can maximise revenue streams accordingly. The easiest way is to offer greater experience for higher value. If it was set at £50 a ticket for everyone then tickets alone is not a great payback. Corporate money is where the bigger returns are.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2023, 05:38:52 PM »
I've been thinking about this recently but Dave has put it far more eloquently than I could probably manage.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2023, 07:26:21 PM by Exeter 77 »

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2023, 05:45:57 PM »
Great read Dave.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2023, 06:13:09 PM »
Great article, it would be great if those in power were to take note.
Some many things are going well, just don’t forget the stalwart's who have been there through thin and thinner.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2023, 06:35:48 PM »
My old boss used to say 'there is no such thing as a complaint, it is room for improvement'.

If we want to compete with the big clubs we have to act like a big club. We wont do that by shopping at Lidl's if they are shopping at Harrods.

Unfortunately, in the real world it is probably a price we have to pay.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2023, 10:06:23 PM by Baldy »

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2023, 08:10:54 PM »
The politics of envy is rife in society not just football. Unless those who can afford upgraded services are not cocks about it and rub people's noses in it, then I see no problem.

If I see a guy in a top car and he has got it through hard work etc I don't think " he shouldn't have that the rich wanker" I would want to know how he got it and hoped it inspired me to achieve what he has.

With our ground expansion plans being only a moderate increase in bums on seats they need to see where they can maximise revenue streams accordingly. The easiest way is to offer greater experience for higher value. If it was set at £50 a ticket for everyone then tickets alone is not a great payback. Corporate money is where the bigger returns are.

Not everybody measures themselves against the accumulation of material wealth.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2023, 08:36:00 PM »
It's not about the politics of envy or maximising revenue (which in this case is miniscule anyway). It's alienating the existing supporter base at a time when we should all be buzzing.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2023, 09:54:41 PM »
Good points well made and hopefully the club will see this and think about the direction they are currently heading.
I have no problem with the seeking to maximise revenue, but do it with some consideration and respect for the values that has made us stand out from the rest.

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Re: Doing the right thing
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2023, 11:59:25 PM »
Sad, I think, that success in modern football equates to the death pf the traditional fan.  Bayern are often touted as a beacon, the ticket prices are super low for fans.  In the grand scheme of revenue match day tickets are a tiny fraction of revenue.  As long as we are able to continue to get tickets at affordable prices we are ok.  The ground expansion will help with this, I hope.  If not, well, time to start checking out the price of prawns I guess.

 


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