Aston Villa v AZ Alkmaar Post-Match Thread

[Somniloquism]

Screenshot of the offside check for their goal. Which Villa player does that line relate to exactly??

Although that line doesnt seem to be near the attackers foot either.

From that angle it is hard to deduce properly. I would suggest that the line for Lenglet is drawn on his sleeve length / shoulder and the same with the other guy. When they click on where to place the line, it then drops it down on the actual pitch. However the angle means it is all subjective the same with they couldn't use the angle for the ball being "out" for the Newcastle one. So if the Offside wasn't given by the lino, they would have really had to go with the onfield decision anyway. For an easy way to see the angle differences for on/off side, watch the TNT highlights of Watkins goal. Live, the camera is further back and seems to show Watkins very level or maybe slightly head of the defender. However when the angle is closer to 90 degree to the action, you can see Watkins is actually slightly behind the defender when the ball is played.

The trouble with VAR is it is also dependent to who is the broadcaster. Sky has cameramen coming out the wazoo but TNT don't employ as many. The same issue with why Liverpool got away with a similar VAR decision against Wolves in the cup as the camera didn't cover an angle that showed where Neves was on the pitch when the ball came back and the lino called offside.

[Lastfootstamper]

Screenshot of the offside check for their goal. Which Villa player does that line relate to exactly??

Anybody else think it looks like Konsa's screaming across at somebody who should be holding their ****ing line?

[VillaTim]

Screenshot of the offside check for their goal. Which Villa player does that line relate to exactly??

Although that line doesnt seem to be near the attackers foot either.

unless he's size 19's

[AV84]

After last night and Carlos' goal, we've now had 13 different goal scorers this season. Would have been 14 if Lenglet's had stood.

I think Konsa, Zaniolo, and Lenglet are the only regular(ish) players to not have scored yet.

[UK Redsox]

After last night and Carlos' goal, we've now had 13 different goal scorers this season. Would have been 14 if Lenglet's had stood.

I think Konsa, Zaniolo, and Lenglet are the only regular(ish) players to not have scored yet.

Even Emi's scored a couple

[Skerra]

Looked offside to me in real time and didn’t change my mind when the replays were shown.
Also, the early goal we scored was incorrectly called offside. They really need to do much better with VAR

[Exeter 77]

I've finally watched the goals back. Douglas Luiz's ball to Ollie Watkins for the winner looked brilliant live from the Holte End but was positively Cowansesque on TV.

[exigo]

The Luiz pass to Watkins was our 27th in possession. Liquid football again.

[Somniloquism]

I've finally watched the goals back. Douglas Luiz's ball to Ollie Watkins for the winner looked brilliant live from the Holte End but was positively Cowansesque on TV.

As I mentioned, it is obviously something they have worked on the training ground with Emery.  Watch Watkins in the build-up off the ball, he suddenly comes alive and makes the run the second he see the ball going to Dougie. Luiz also looks for the same run and dink onto the head for the goal. Still needs the perfect pass though.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

The Luiz pass to Watkins was our 27th in possession. Liquid football again.

It wasn't that long ago we couldn't string two passes together.

[Toronto Villa]

I've finally watched the goals back. Douglas Luiz's ball to Ollie Watkins for the winner looked brilliant live from the Holte End but was positively Cowansesque on TV.

Yep. It was a very Cowans to Platt type of goal from my youth.

[Exeter 77]

I've finally watched the goals back. Douglas Luiz's ball to Ollie Watkins for the winner looked brilliant live from the Holte End but was positively Cowansesque on TV.

Yep. It was a very Cowans to Platt type of goal from my youth.

That's what I saw in it, particularly Platt's goal v Inter.

[PeterWithesShin]

An answer David Platt gave to the question "What's your greatest footballing ambition?" was "To make a run that Gordon Cowans doesn't spot."

[dcdavecollett]

Love the comments re the winner -the first thing I thought of when Doug whipped that ball in was the Immortal Gordon Sidney Cowans.

Thought the ref/VAR had an interesting evening, a mix of raging incompetence re the 'goals' that should/shouldn't have been allowed/disallowed and a refusal to book Alkmaar players for repeated fouling. Against that, he wasn't conned by players falling over than expecting a cheap free-kick. More of the latter, please.