Aston Villa v AZ Alkmaar Post-Match Thread

[VillaTim]

If our first had stood we would have run riot again. That being chalked off changed the dynamic of things but we still got the job done.

Apparently the officials have apologised for getting the offside wrong . Is this not where VAR are supposed to step in

[AV82EC]

If our first had stood we would have run riot again. That being chalked off changed the dynamic of things but we still got the job done.

Apparently the officials have apologised for getting the offside wrong . Is this not where VAR are supposed to step in

It was VAR that got it wrong.

[VillaTim]

If our first had stood we would have run riot again. That being chalked off changed the dynamic of things but we still got the job done.

Apparently the officials have apologised for getting the offside wrong . Is this not where VAR are supposed to step in

It was VAR that got it wrong.

Christ even worse then. I thought the lino had flagged Bailey off

[Somniloquism]

Their goal WAS offside. Just been clarified.
We shouldn’t have a corner. Obviously

But arise Doug n Ollie.

Clarified where? I turned BT off at FT.

Nothing has been mentioned about their goal but the Villa players have said the Ref apologised about our goal being disallowed.

The official has muddied the waters on that one. It's one you don't see often but by the laws of the game it was correctly given as offside

I suspect it depends on whether you think the defender deliberately played it or not.

A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately played* the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent.

*‘Deliberate play’ (excluding deliberate handball) is when a player has control of the ball with the possibility of:

passing the ball to a team-mate;
gaining possession of the ball; or
clearing the ball (e.g. by kicking or heading it)
If the pass, attempt to gain possession or clearance by the player in control of the ball is inaccurate or unsuccessful, this does not negate the fact that the player ‘deliberately played’ the ball.

[Somniloquism]

We almost scored direct from a corner in the first half but for a tremendous goal line clearance, and we did in the second. So far this season we haven't done much from them. Was this down to the quality of the opposition, the different taker or the different defenders we had going for it?

[dorsetvillian]

We got the win but it wasn't pretty. The lack of pressure from our forwards allowed that ball ver the top to be very dangerous for AZ. Bailey was back to his usual self of making the wrong decision 99% of the time. He has talent but the lack of any consistency is infuriating. We need an upgrade

[baddowvillans]

Their goal WAS offside. Just been clarified.
We shouldn’t have a corner. Obviously

But arise Doug n Ollie.

Clarified where? I turned BT off at FT.

Nothing has been mentioned about their goal but the Villa players have said the Ref apologised about our goal being disallowed.

The official has muddied the waters on that one. It's one you don't see often but by the laws of the game it was correctly given as offside

A nice assertive statement but you can't get away without explaining why?  Myself and a many others are of the view that Bailey can't be offside if he receives the ball from a defender who deliberately played the ball.  If you know otherwise please enlighten us.

[Exeter 77]

We almost scored direct from a corner in the first half but for a tremendous goal line clearance, and we did in the second. So far this season we haven't done much from them. Was this down to the quality of the opposition, the different taker or the different defenders we had going for it?

Diego Carlos definitely gives us more of a presence in the air at corners.

[darren woolley]

I'm happy with the win great tribute to Charlie Aitkin we are in a great position to win the group now.

[PaulTheVillan]

About time Carlos scored a header from a corner. He tends to miss one each game he plays

Lovely ball from Luiz for Watkins goal.

[Risso]

Who is that commentator on TNT, he's like a cross between Alan Partridge and Ron Manager. Goes out of his way with stupid pronunications of the players' names, eg Douglush Lew-eesh, Tielemons etc.

[Dave]

Douglush Lew-eesh

I await Mark or Gary's correction - but isn't that a pretty accurate recreaction of how is would be pronounced in Brazilian Portuguese?

[manic-road]

Happy with the win, and a great tribute to Charlie. I think patience is needed for some fans, after going one down quite a few around me are screaming for the ball to be launched forward quicker. It's not how we play now, that is never going to happen under Unai thankfully.

[ROBBO]

I didn't see last nights game, reading reports it seemed to be another lack lustre performace until Dougie came on. We may be suffering the West Ham experience where our squad is not quite good enough compete in both competitions. We seem to have run out of energy and options in last couple of games, the spark is missing. I hope put half a dozen past Fulham at the weekend to make me look an idiot.

[Bobby Boy]

Happy with the win, and a great tribute to Charlie. I think patience is needed for some fans, after going one down quite a few around me are screaming for the ball to be launched forward quicker. It's not how we play now, that is never going to happen under Unai thankfully.

I think that you are right but sometimes our play is so slow and pedestrian that it feels like time has stopped.

Emi is bringing some Zen into the art of keeping hold of the ball as long as possible without playing it.

I'm expecting at least a 5 minute delay some time soon as Emi refuses to play the ball and the opposition refuses to engage at which point the referee stops the game and announces a stalemate.