Away Tickets - What's the magic?

[Nii Lamptey]

Simple solution is ID is linked to the ticket and you have to show ID at the turnstile.

Fans who go every game will still get to go to every game, fans who are bending the rules will be rightly outed.

[Clampy]

Simple solution is ID is linked to the ticket and you have to show ID at the turnstile.

Fans who go every game will still get to go to every game, fans who are bending the rules will be rightly outed.

That's a terrible idea. It just wouldn't work.

[Des Little]

A bloke working for pin money on a turnstile isn't going to give a tinker's cuss about checking ID for away fans, it's a non starter.

Does anyone know what works (or doesn't) for other clubs who must have exactly this thorny issue?

[simboy]

Whatever system used will cause unfairness.

My away games in the 70's, 80's and 90's count for nothing now?! Disgraceful!!! If you weren't at Highbury watching Pele walk around you shouldn't be allowed an away ticket! Absolute nonsense.

Supporting Villa home or away is and always has been a transient thing. Life changes and gets in the way. You get kids, have to support your partner with depression, build a business on a Saturday, make sure you have a roof over your head, become ill, a myriad of other reasons. Add to that supporting the Villa "live" has been made more difficult since the re-invention of football in 1992. All ticket games were a rarity then ... but then again so was fan safety and not wading through the piss of others.

My lad who turned 19 a few months ago would love to go both home and away games. He can't because those who watched the dross we served up in the 2010's claim their tickets week in week out. Thats ok, properly deserved. But there has to be some way of breaking into that sanctum, otherwise we kill the enthusiasm, he goes off, settles down and can't be bothered to go to Fulham on a wet Wednesday in February. It cannot be just Deadman's shoes.

[Stinkin_Thinkin]

How about a system where the people who actually go to the game after getting a ticket off the away regulars bring the ticket stub to Villa Park ticket office and get the history banked on their ref?
Then the guys passing tickets don't accumulate bogus history and organically drop down the ranks. And the people who make the journey get rewarded.
The only floor in this obviously some people might buy tickets and not go to preserve their status.

[VillaTim]

I'd like a system where every ST holder / Member gets a chance to go to at least 1 Prem away game a year . i used to do 6 or 7 on average , though some seasons did +15 .
That system they had at Warsaw seemed quite good and did catch a couple of hundred out who bought tickets with no intention of attending.

[Ads]

Simple solution is ID is linked to the ticket and you have to show ID at the turnstile.

Fans who go every game will still get to go to every game, fans who are bending the rules will be rightly outed.

That's a terrible idea. It just wouldn't work.

They did this in Warsaw.

[Ads]

How many people pass on their references? How many people pass on their references regularly? What is your definition of regularly.

[Richard]

I'd like a system where every ST holder / Member gets a chance to go to at least 1 Prem away game a year . i used to do 6 or 7 on average , though some seasons did +15 .
That system they had at Warsaw seemed quite good and did catch a couple of hundred out who bought tickets with no intention of attending.

Maybe give an opportunity to fans who live more local to whoever we are playing away an opportunity. I can't get a ticket for Sheff Utd in Feb from either Villa or Sheffield. Would love to go as I'm only 12 miles north of there.

[VillaTim]

I'd like a system where every ST holder / Member gets a chance to go to at least 1 Prem away game a year . i used to do 6 or 7 on average , though some seasons did +15 .
That system they had at Warsaw seemed quite good and did catch a couple of hundred out who bought tickets with no intention of attending.

Maybe give an opportunity to fans who live more local to whoever we are playing away an opportunity. I can't get a ticket for Sheff Utd in Feb from either Villa or Sheffield. Would love to go as I'm only 12 miles north of there.

there's probably a good Sustainability PR opportunity there too

[Clampy]

Simple solution is ID is linked to the ticket and you have to show ID at the turnstile.

Fans who go every game will still get to go to every game, fans who are bending the rules will be rightly outed.

That's a terrible idea. It just wouldn't work.

They did this in Warsaw.

They checked the ID at the turnstile or when you picked up the tickets?

[Ads]

Simple solution is ID is linked to the ticket and you have to show ID at the turnstile.

Fans who go every game will still get to go to every game, fans who are bending the rules will be rightly outed.

That's a terrible idea. It just wouldn't work.

They did this in Warsaw.

They checked the ID at the turnstile or when you picked up the tickets?

Turnstiles. They couldn't do the ticket collection over there with what a bunch of throbbers their fans are. Alkmaar, Hibs and Mostar it's all been collected from the Villa with your ID. In Mostar they were insistent on passports, which was annoying as I'd left it in the hotel. Would have been quite the ruse for tickets to have fake driving licence, bank cards, season tickets etc to go with the pic of my passport.

[Dogtanian]

I think there should be more tickets available for ballots, particularly at the larger grounds. That gives more people an opportunity to go to a few away games.

I think corporate customers should be judged as normal fans are and have to build up and maintain a history like everybody else. I know a couple of people who hardly go to away games yet got tickets to european away games via corporate connections when I couldn't go to any because my mate couldn't do the first one.

As someone who genuinely goes to all the away games, you do sometimes feel a bit trapped that if you miss a game or so you may find yourself screwed. I'm lucky in that I don't have kids and have flexibility at work and disposable income, but some must really struggle to go to every one and I can see why it's tempting to cheat the system. The same if you're ill, you could be shooting yourself in the foot by handing your ticket back.

I'd like to see an amnesty where people with a full history can give up their place for a game every now and then and let others go instead. I'd also like to see more checks done on IDs where you have to collect your tickets at the ground.

[AV82EC]

Simple solution is ID is linked to the ticket and you have to show ID at the turnstile.

Fans who go every game will still get to go to every game, fans who are bending the rules will be rightly outed.

That's a terrible idea. It just wouldn't work.

They did this in Warsaw.

They checked the ID at the turnstile or when you picked up the tickets?

It was while you were being sexually molested by the turnstile security team.

[Dogtanian]

Simple solution is ID is linked to the ticket and you have to show ID at the turnstile.

Fans who go every game will still get to go to every game, fans who are bending the rules will be rightly outed.

That's a terrible idea. It just wouldn't work.

They did this in Warsaw.

They checked the ID at the turnstile or when you picked up the tickets?

It was while you were being sexually molested by the turnstile security team.

Another thing I missed.