2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.

[PaulWinch again]

Out of interest though - why Philogene? Why not Cam or Ramsey? As I say I don’t profess to know much about Rogers, beyond what I’ve seen since we were linked with him. The point for me is that the fee, particularly the structure, doesn’t seem wildly out of whack. Clearly doesn’t guarantee success, but if we think it’s the right player and it does work out he’ll go onto to be worth much more than we’re paying.

[PeterWithesShin]

He'll have to be a success to cost the full £15m. As it is he's a costing a couple of million more than Philogene. Probably because one is moving to a top 4 PL club and the other went to a second division side that had finished 15th.

[ROBBO]

So Emery wants to sign a twenty one six foot four player and posters are moaning about fifteen million dollars, with what he has done with Villa over the last twelve months I have confidence that he knows what he is doing.

[algy]

A 21 year old for £15m isn’t that bonkers if we believe in his ability.

Why is he worth three times what Philogene was?

I imagine we needed money on the books and Hull were the ones who were willing to offer us the most money whilst allowing us to keep a buyback clause.  You'd imagine we'll also be able to buy him back for peanuts.

I think it's basically just a side effect of the FFP rules. We have to sell players, we don't have any option not to realistically, so all we can do is try to minimise the negative impact of that. Let younger players who aren't yet in the first team go and try to keep some option for us to get them back if they turn out to be good.

I think it'll work for the good in the long term, but it doesn't sort out a short and medium term problem that some clubs have spent big and reaped the rewards before it's come in.

[Toronto Villa]

So Emery wants to sign a twenty one six foot four player and posters are moaning about fifteen million dollars, with what he has done with Villa over the last twelve months I have confidence that he knows what he is doing.

dollars? Too many years in the outback Robbo

[paul_e]

The fee is a bit more complicated than being made out. Most reports are saying 15m total with a split of 8m up front and 7m in addons, etc. The 7m is going to be based on appearances and performance and any of it that we have to pay will be a sign that he is playing regularly and doing the job he's come in for. On that basis I'm not going to worry about it much. If we end up paying the full amount I don't think many people will be upset about it and we'll probably have a player wortha  hell of a lot more on the books.

The question I have though is how do addons work in regard to FFP? Does he go into the books as a straight up £15m or as an £8m asset and £7m of potential liabilities? and if the latter how do the liabilities work with regard to amortisation? It seems like it could be a bit of minefield whichever way it works.

[chrisw1]

So Emery wants to sign a twenty one six foot four player and posters are moaning about fifteen million dollars, with what he has done with Villa over the last twelve months I have confidence that he knows what he is doing.

Fantastic.  Shut the forum down.  There's no point ever discussing tactics, selection, signings etc ever again whilst Emery is manager.

Hopefully that will be at least another 4 or 5 years, so hopefully see you then.

[PaulWinch again]

So Emery wants to sign a twenty one six foot four player and posters are moaning about fifteen million dollars, with what he has done with Villa over the last twelve months I have confidence that he knows what he is doing.

Fantastic.  Shut the forum down.  There's no point ever discussing tactics, selection, signings etc ever again whilst Emery is manager.

Hopefully that will be at least another 4 or 5 years, so hopefully see you then.

To be fair he’s just expressing his opinion.

[chrisw1]

So Emery wants to sign a twenty one six foot four player and posters are moaning about fifteen million dollars, with what he has done with Villa over the last twelve months I have confidence that he knows what he is doing.

Fantastic.  Shut the forum down.  There's no point ever discussing tactics, selection, signings etc ever again whilst Emery is manager.

Hopefully that will be at least another 4 or 5 years, so hopefully see you then.

To be fair he’s just expressing his opinion.

'and posters are moaning...'

[caster troy]

Rogers doesn't seem like a bad signing in isolation but it's a strange one to have prioritised given we only have one striker, one right back, one defensive midfielder and we are fighting for 4th while hoping to progress in two other competitions. If we really are planning to rely on Zaniolo, Hayden and Iroegbunam as cover for those positions we are taking a massive gamble.

I hoped for another Moreno in this window, not a household name but an experienced player who could come in and instantly improve us. We can't expect Rogers to be the difference between finishing 4th or 7th but other players out there could be.

[Dogtanian]

Rogers doesn't seem like a bad signing in isolation but it's a strange one to have prioritised given we only have one striker, one right back, one defensive midfielder and we are fighting for 4th while hoping to progress in two other competitions. If we really are planning to rely on Zaniolo, Hayden and Iroegbunam as cover for those positions we are taking a massive gamble.

I hoped for another Moreno in this window, not a household name but an experienced player who could come in and instantly improve us. We can't expect Rogers to be the difference between finishing 4th or 7th but other players out there could be.

The problem is that any of the players that are highly likely to make the difference between 7th and 4th are going to cost a bomb.

I think Rogers can play a part this season. But Emery is backing the squad that got us here to have a good go at keeping us here.

[Matt C]

Adelaide United goalkeeper Joe Gauci incoming according to Sky.

[Steve67]

Adelaide United goalkeeper Joe Gauci incoming according to Sky.

Hoping Olsen is off then.

[VillaTim]

Adelaide United goalkeeper Joe Gauci incoming according to Sky.

another left field signing to say the least

[Gareth]

Adelaide United goalkeeper Joe Gauci incoming according to Sky.

Hoping Olsen is off then.

100% this Steve!