2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.

[Beard82]

My understanding is because the sales go straight on the "bottom line", but purchases are spread over the length of the contract, so 20m profit might go a long way.

Thats on of my many issues with FFP.  For example, it looks likely we have sold Archer, but will buy him back when Shef Utd go down.  But effectively, its like remortgaging the house.  I.e. in real terms we wont have made a profit, but well have spread his "value" over a contract. 

[clash city rocker]

So if we sign a player for say £40m does that act as a loss for FFP ? Would that player not be considered an asset ? Obviously brethren on here are better versed than I in understanding this and could maybe explain how it all works as there seem so many factors to FFP I just don't get.

[edgysatsuma89]

So if we sign a player for say £40m does that act as a loss for FFP ? Would that player not be considered an asset ? Obviously brethren on here are better versed than I in understanding this and could maybe explain how it all works as there seem so many factors to FFP I just don't get.

Thick as shit layman here:

Depends on the length of his contract. So if it were a 4 year deal, then we have a -£10m loss for each year (that's without wages). That's why Chelsea were giving players 8 year contracts to spread that loss over multiple years. That is now banned although they can still give out the 8 year contract but the cost of the player can only be spread out over a maximum of 5 years. It's not retrospective, though.

[Gareth]

Recalled Kessler-Hayden from Plymouth…whether that is to loan him elsewhere for more starts, to sell or to have around for 2nd half of season as a right back squad option??

[OCD]

I'm sure we'll also take into account whether the player's value has been fully amortised or not too. Duran and Digne are still in their first contracts so it would be profit over their existing book value. Whereas those players who have been here the longest would be all profit because they're fully amortised.

[Clampy]

One player id like us to keep an eye on is Tom Fellows at Sandwell. Looks a very promising player whenever I've seen him.

[Tony Daleys Shorts]

One player id like us to keep an eye on is Tom Fellows at Sandwell. Looks a very promising player whenever I've seen him.

Yeah, the stripey fans in the local reckon he’s a good’un.

[Baldy]

I havn't a clue about FPP. Is the fact the total value of our players must have increased by one or two hundred million over the last 18 months taken into consideration?

[eamonn]

One player id like us to keep an eye on is Tom Fellows at Sandwell. Looks a very promising player whenever I've seen him.

Yeah, the stripey fans in the local reckon he’s a good’un.

A goodfella?

[AV84]

Recalled Kessler-Hayden from Plymouth…whether that is to loan him elsewhere for more starts, to sell or to have around for 2nd half of season as a right back squad option??

Plymouth must hate us lately.

[ChicagoLion]

I havn't a clue about FPP. Is the fact the total value of our players must have increased by one or two hundred million over the last 18 months taken into consideration?

no

[OCD]

I havn't a clue about FPP. Is the fact the total value of our players must have increased by one or two hundred million over the last 18 months taken into consideration?

Only by selling them.

[paul_e]

I havn't a clue about FPP. Is the fact the total value of our players must have increased by one or two hundred million over the last 18 months taken into consideration?

Only by selling them.

Yep, unti lthey're sold any increase in value is only theoretical so means nothing.

[JUAN PABLO]

In the summer Bailey enters his final year & Luiz will have 2 years left. If we can't reach an agreement on extensions & good offers come in, then we will cash in.

Whatever happens I trust the owners & Emery to make the right decisions. We are building something & we may have to sacrifice some players to continue building.

I think the points deduction for Everton may have made clubs more cautious.

Everyone now play the game stick to the rules and then ask what are you doing about Manchester City?

yeah like how come Rodri never gets a booking for mouthing off at the ref all game  . 

[eamonn]

Taking defence out of the equation (goalie + defence = 5, therefore 6 outfield positions in midfield/up-front), I think the below 8 are good enough to form the basis of our challenge in three competitions:

1. Luiz
2. Kamara
3. McGinn
4. Tielemans
5. Ramsey
6. Bailey
7. Diaby
8. Watkins

Only 6 can play at once. We ideally would have cover of equal or close to equal quality which is where we fall down compared to other teams at the top.

Our four remaining "second choices" aren't quite at the level required:

9. Dendoncker
10. Zaniolo
11. Duran
12. Traore (?)

Buendia is missing. He would probably be good enough to add to the initial 8 elite.

So I think we need another attacking option, and probably an upgrade to the Donk. Allowing him, Traore (and Chambers) to leave.

Defence is ok for me with the possible exception of getting proper competition in for Cash at RB. Konsa's ball-playing has come on leaps and bounds but I want him at CB, he's the best one we have alongside Torres.