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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1965 on: January 09, 2024, 12:59:39 PM »
The French league is a lot stronger than the Championship any which way you look at it.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1966 on: January 09, 2024, 01:21:57 PM »
The French league is a lot stronger than the Championship any which way you look at it.

From what I have seen on BT / TNT, it's not as definitive as you make it out.

Sure, PSG, Monaco, Marseille, Lille would probably beat most Championship teams, although Leicester, Leeds, might give a couple of them a decent enough game, but the rest of the league is pretty average.

Technically gifted, but I think the faster paced Championship would give the majority of those other teams a run for their money...

...in my subjective humble opinion, of course.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1967 on: January 09, 2024, 01:30:34 PM »
It's all fairly meaningless. We're not going to be buying Jonathan David this transfer window. Or indeed, anybody else in all probability.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1968 on: January 09, 2024, 01:43:37 PM »
The French league is a lot stronger than the Championship any which way you look at it.

From what I have seen on BT / TNT, it's not as definitive as you make it out.

Sure, PSG, Monaco, Marseille, Lille would probably beat most Championship teams, although Leicester, Leeds, might give a couple of them a decent enough game, but the rest of the league is pretty average.

Technically gifted, but I think the faster paced Championship would give the majority of those other teams a run for their money...

...in my subjective humble opinion, of course.

If PSG played the likes of Sunderland (I could have chosen 90% of the league) week-in-week-out then they would win every game 6-0. There is a reason they don't.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1969 on: January 09, 2024, 01:48:11 PM »
....it would be a strange signing when we could have kept Archer for free...

The bold bit is just weird. One of them is a full international with a pretty much 1 in 2 record of 3 1/2 seasons in Ligue 1, the other hadn't scored a top flight goal before this season. Archer may become a top striker but David already is one, they're not comparable.

A full international for Canada.

And it all depends on how one rates the French league to say whether French top flight football is stronger than the Championship, where Archers record is exceptional.

I don't disagree that David is already more developed than Archer, & one would expect that, being two years older, but I also think that under the right guidance, Archer could become Davids equal when he hits Davids current age...

I don't think that guidance is at Sheff U though...

But again, that is a whole different discussion & Im not sure I have the energy to argue with you today that they sky isn't blue, because it is more 75% Cyan with a 3% touch of magenta, 2% yellow & 3% black...

You really need to get over that, especially as you still don't understand what I was disagreeing with. I would say you should go and get some fresh air but your so thin-skinned the wind might be a bit dangerous.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1970 on: January 09, 2024, 01:57:19 PM »
The French league is a lot stronger than the Championship any which way you look at it.

From what I have seen on BT / TNT, it's not as definitive as you make it out.

Sure, PSG, Monaco, Marseille, Lille would probably beat most Championship teams, although Leicester, Leeds, might give a couple of them a decent enough game, but the rest of the league is pretty average.

Technically gifted, but I think the faster paced Championship would give the majority of those other teams a run for their money...

...in my subjective humble opinion, of course.

If PSG played the likes of Sunderland (I could have chosen 90% of the league) week-in-week-out then they would win every game 6-0. There is a reason they don't.

Yes, because they are both based in different countries...

But isn't that about PSG what I said anyway?
« Last Edit: January 09, 2024, 02:00:03 PM by pablo_picasso »

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1971 on: January 09, 2024, 01:58:34 PM »
....it would be a strange signing when we could have kept Archer for free...

The bold bit is just weird. One of them is a full international with a pretty much 1 in 2 record of 3 1/2 seasons in Ligue 1, the other hadn't scored a top flight goal before this season. Archer may become a top striker but David already is one, they're not comparable.

A full international for Canada.

And it all depends on how one rates the French league to say whether French top flight football is stronger than the Championship, where Archers record is exceptional.

I don't disagree that David is already more developed than Archer, & one would expect that, being two years older, but I also think that under the right guidance, Archer could become Davids equal when he hits Davids current age...

I don't think that guidance is at Sheff U though...

But again, that is a whole different discussion & Im not sure I have the energy to argue with you today that they sky isn't blue, because it is more 75% Cyan with a 3% touch of magenta, 2% yellow & 3% black...

You really need to get over that, especially as you still don't understand what I was disagreeing with. I would say you should go and get some fresh air but your so thin-skinned the wind might be a bit dangerous.

😂

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1972 on: January 09, 2024, 01:59:54 PM »
The French league is a lot stronger than the Championship any which way you look at it.

From what I have seen on BT / TNT, it's not as definitive as you make it out.

Sure, PSG, Monaco, Marseille, Lille would probably beat most Championship teams, although Leicester, Leeds, might give a couple of them a decent enough game, but the rest of the league is pretty average.

Technically gifted, but I think the faster paced Championship would give the majority of those other teams a run for their money...

...in my subjective humble opinion, of course.

If PSG played the likes of Sunderland (I could have chosen 90% of the league) week-in-week-out then they would win every game 6-0. There is a reason they don't.

Yes, because they are both based in different countries...

But isn't that what I said anyway?

Strange post. It was pretty obvious the point I was making.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1973 on: January 09, 2024, 02:00:58 PM »
A bit out of date and I don't know exactly how they work it out but this looks about right in terms of the relative strengths of the teams in L1 and the championship - https://www.globalfootballrankings.com/compare?first=FrenchLigue1&second=EnglishLeagueChampionship

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1974 on: January 09, 2024, 02:03:00 PM »
The French league is a lot stronger than the Championship any which way you look at it.

From what I have seen on BT / TNT, it's not as definitive as you make it out.

Sure, PSG, Monaco, Marseille, Lille would probably beat most Championship teams, although Leicester, Leeds, might give a couple of them a decent enough game, but the rest of the league is pretty average.

Technically gifted, but I think the faster paced Championship would give the majority of those other teams a run for their money...

...in my subjective humble opinion, of course.

If PSG played the likes of Sunderland (I could have chosen 90% of the league) week-in-week-out then they would win every game 6-0. There is a reason they don't.

Yes, because they are both based in different countries...

But isn't that what I said anyway?

Strange post. It was pretty obvious the point I was making.

And I don't disagree with that point.

Which is why I said it in the post you originally quoted...

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1975 on: January 09, 2024, 02:09:23 PM »
The French league is a lot stronger than the Championship any which way you look at it.

From what I have seen on BT / TNT, it's not as definitive as you make it out.

Sure, PSG, Monaco, Marseille, Lille would probably beat most Championship teams, although Leicester, Leeds, might give a couple of them a decent enough game, but the rest of the league is pretty average.

Technically gifted, but I think the faster paced Championship would give the majority of those other teams a run for their money...

...in my subjective humble opinion, of course.

If PSG played the likes of Sunderland (I could have chosen 90% of the league) week-in-week-out then they would win every game 6-0. There is a reason they don't.

Yes, because they are both based in different countries...

But isn't that what I said anyway?

Strange post. It was pretty obvious the point I was making.

And I don't disagree with that point.

Which is why I said it in the post you originally quoted...

Ay? I agree with LeeB that the French league is significantly better than the Championship. You don't think that, so you can't be agreeing with me.

Anyway, like Risso said, I can't see us spending the money to bring in David in January, anyway.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1976 on: January 09, 2024, 02:10:53 PM »
Doug would've absolutely loved FFP.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1977 on: January 09, 2024, 02:14:46 PM »
A bit out of date and I don't know exactly how they work it out but this looks about right in terms of the relative strengths of the teams in L1 and the championship - https://www.globalfootballrankings.com/compare?first=FrenchLigue1&second=EnglishLeagueChampionship

Well it's a year out of date for a start.

If you look at the Premier League rankings (against anybody really) they've got Palace ranked higher than Spurs. We're ranked higher than PSG as well. Some info on how they calculate their points would make it interesting, but as there's nothing it's a bit meaningless.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1978 on: January 09, 2024, 02:19:30 PM »
A bit out of date and I don't know exactly how they work it out but this looks about right in terms of the relative strengths of the teams in L1 and the championship - https://www.globalfootballrankings.com/compare?first=FrenchLigue1&second=EnglishLeagueChampionship

Well it's a year out of date for a start.

If you look at the Premier League rankings (against anybody really) they've got Palace ranked higher than Spurs. We're ranked higher than PSG as well. Some info on how they calculate their points would make it interesting, but as there's nothing it's a bit meaningless.

Well yeah, I said it was out of date and that I don't know how they work it out so I agree, but my point was that if you look at how they had the teams ranked it seemed fair to me, with the french teams clearly crowding the top of the table.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1979 on: January 09, 2024, 02:20:46 PM »
A bit out of date and I don't know exactly how they work it out but this looks about right in terms of the relative strengths of the teams in L1 and the championship - https://www.globalfootballrankings.com/compare?first=FrenchLigue1&second=EnglishLeagueChampionship

These are better because they explain why & how they are making those rankings...

They are using opta stats, by the looks of it.

https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/09/who-are-the-best-football-team-in-the-world-opta-power-rankings/

https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/01/power-rankings-your-club-ranked/

By looking at those links, it actually backs up your point as there are less Championship clubs in the top 22 than in your link, so I am happy to concede that when it comes to these statistical analysis, the Championship is ranked lower than Ligue 1.

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy watching the Championship over Ligue 1, but in terms of the above stats, etc, I accept that the Championship is rated lower than Ligue 1.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2024, 02:30:23 PM by pablo_picasso »

 


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