2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.

[garyellis]

It’s sinking in now that with FFP Newcastle can’t just splash the cash no matter how wealthy their owners are.
You have to consider more than one window now when thinking about wiggle room.

[PeterWithe]

I’m hoping Tim is purely a potential loan.

I will be pissed with a capital P if we let Iroegbunam go permanently, even if they do add a "buyback clause"...

Yes but I think we will have to get used to promising academy players leaving for FFP reasons.

[Dave]

It’s sinking in now that with FFP Newcastle can’t just splash the cash no matter how wealthy their owners are.

This came up in the summer, and it highlights how important it is to have an economically active youth policy.

I get why people are sad to see the likes of Chukwuemeka, Archer, Ramsey and Philogene leave, but I reckon that the money from those four is probably more than Newcastle have brought in from sales of former academy players in their history. And if it weren't for Andy Carroll warping that figure, they'd barely have a sale of note since the 80s.

And then Grealish on top.

That bit of book-balancing is the reason why we're probably fine to strengthen with a player or two if we want, while they might struggle a bit.

[OCD]

They'll have CL money coming through their accounts and any added commercial income. If our second half of the season mirrors our first, that added CL and commercial income added to youth player sales would really boost what we can do.

[Smithy]

It’s sinking in now that with FFP Newcastle can’t just splash the cash no matter how wealthy their owners are.

This came up in the summer, and it highlights how important it is to have an economically active youth policy.

I get why people are sad to see the likes of Chukwuemeka, Archer, Ramsey and Philogene leave, but I reckon that the money from those four is probably more than Newcastle have brought in from sales of former academy players in their history. And if it weren't for Andy Carroll warping that figure, they'd barely have a sale of note since the 80s.

And then Grealish on top.

That bit of book-balancing is the reason why we're probably fine to strengthen with a player or two if we want, while they might struggle a bit.

The bit people tend to forget is that Newcastle didn't invest heavily under the previous owner, with Mike Ashley putting bugger all in, so while FFP is a rolling three-year period, the first year or so of that period they were WELL in the black, whereas we've been skirting around our limit since coming up (barring the Grealish summer).

I don't know what Newcastle's current position is, but I think they still have a bit of a Ashley period helping them from a FFP perspective.

It's only now, that we can really see how much financial doping Chelsea and Man City actually did before FFP even became a thing.

[Toronto Villa]

It’s sinking in now that with FFP Newcastle can’t just splash the cash no matter how wealthy their owners are.

This came up in the summer, and it highlights how important it is to have an economically active youth policy.

I get why people are sad to see the likes of Chukwuemeka, Archer, Ramsey and Philogene leave, but I reckon that the money from those four is probably more than Newcastle have brought in from sales of former academy players in their history. And if it weren't for Andy Carroll warping that figure, they'd barely have a sale of note since the 80s.

And then Grealish on top.

That bit of book-balancing is the reason why we're probably fine to strengthen with a player or two if we want, while they might struggle a bit.

I do wonder how interested an ownership group that has a bottomless pit of cash will remain if they cannot just spend it how they want. They don't have those restrictions in other sports they have invested. You just have to look recent sums being paid out in golf for that. I imagine they bought Newcastle thinking they could just do what Man City had done, PSG or Chelsea in the past and buy themselves titles. Might not be so easy anymore.

[LeonW]

They do need a midfielder as well, they played Havertz there yesterday.

Playing a midfielder in midfield? That'll never catch on.

I am not sure where he plays, but as part of a midfield 3 ?
Not for me.

The performances for Leverkusen which made Chelsea spend £70m on him were basically him playing like Lampard, in front of two other midfielders and behind a centre-forward (Kevin Volland), getting into the box late.

Chelsea tried to then use him as a striker, and much as if you stuck Lampard up front, it didn't really work.

Probably helped having Diaby and Bailey either side of him in his Leverkusen seasons as well though.

Interesting, I have never been convinced by him, not quite a forward not quite a midfielder. I don’t think where Arsenal are playing him suits him either.

Don’t rate him myself. Thought it was very much a vanity purchase from Arsenal

[pauliewalnuts]

It’s sinking in now that with FFP Newcastle can’t just splash the cash no matter how wealthy their owners are.

This came up in the summer, and it highlights how important it is to have an economically active youth policy.

I get why people are sad to see the likes of Chukwuemeka, Archer, Ramsey and Philogene leave, but I reckon that the money from those four is probably more than Newcastle have brought in from sales of former academy players in their history. And if it weren't for Andy Carroll warping that figure, they'd barely have a sale of note since the 80s.

And then Grealish on top.

That bit of book-balancing is the reason why we're probably fine to strengthen with a player or two if we want, while they might struggle a bit.

Absolutely this.

It is vital and has made a truly massive difference for us.

[Clampy]

Being linked with some chap called Cyril Ngonge.

[Risso]

Being linked with some chap called Cyril Ngonge.

His dad played against us for Watford in 1999.

[KevinGage]

Targeting a young goalkeeper this window or next, according to Emery.

Might tie in with Marschall going back out on loan and Olsen departing in the summer.

[Gareth]

Targeting a young goalkeeper this window or next, according to Emery.

Might tie in with Marcshall going back out on loan and Olsen departing in the summer.

The young lad Sam Tickle at Wigan is a highly rated and is apparently very good with the ball at his feet too…would make sense though I’d suspect a young Spanish keeper might have been on Monchi radar for longer

[paul_e]

I'm not sure about going for a young keeper. At some point we really need fill out the squad a little with players from our academy because of the 'club-trained' requirements for Europe. Having at least one of our young keepers in the squad for a few years as 3rd choice at least is an easy way to take up one of the spaces for a player who will make no more than a few appearances. If we sign someone of a similar age to be 2nd choice that becomes more difficult.

[Clampy]

Targeting a young goalkeeper this window or next, according to Emery.

Might tie in with Marcshall going back out on loan and Olsen departing in the summer.

The young lad Sam Tickle at Wigan is a highly rated and is apparently very good with the ball at his feet too…would make sense though I’d suspect a young Spanish keeper might have been on Monchi radar for longer

He would have really long arms too so that would be good.

[Gareth]

Targeting a young goalkeeper this window or next, according to Emery.

Might tie in with Marcshall going back out on loan and Olsen departing in the summer.

The young lad Sam Tickle at Wigan is a highly rated and is apparently very good with the ball at his feet too…would make sense though I’d suspect a young Spanish keeper might have been on Monchi radar for longer

He would have really long arms too so that would be good.

I’ll lay it up you just knock in Mr Clampy :-)