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Offline AV84

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1380 on: December 27, 2023, 12:05:03 PM »
What are Timo Werner’s qualities? Terrible at Chelsea but then, throwing too many players in at the same time is not a good idea!

So many players over the last few years have been terrible at Chelsea and then been fine/good/better/great at other clubs. Joao Felix seems to be having a decent season at Barca after "flopping" at Chelsea last year, for example.

That's not to say we should or shouldn't sign Werner, but being bad at Chelsea isn't a metric I'd measure most players by.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1381 on: December 27, 2023, 12:06:53 PM »
Seems like someone that would suit Emery's tactics and I'd back his judgement and ability to get the best out of someone.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1382 on: December 27, 2023, 12:15:08 PM »
Given his best form was under Nagelsmann at Leipzig and how weak Germany look in attack you'd think a bit of form somewhere and he might be back. I'd be quite happy with it, but I'd have thought going somewhere where he'll play all the time would suit him better.

He could play a fair bit here. We have some great midfielders but at the moment I'd say McGinn, Luiz and Kamara are the only ones guaranteed to play (when available). For various reasons I'd say Ramsey, Diaby, and Bailey are players whose spots are up for grabs. Bailey more so in away games, Emery even specified his home form is great in that Athletic article.

So if Werner wants to play regularly, and backs himself, he could get a lot of football with us.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1383 on: December 27, 2023, 12:22:17 PM »
It would be interesting to see if he plays Werner alongside Watkins. Might be something he uses for certain games when teams are likely to play a low block.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1384 on: December 27, 2023, 12:30:06 PM »
Timo Werner rumoured to be on his way in

You’re usually more in the know than the average poster on transfers.  Do you know if wer looking to be strengthening the 1st 11 or signing back ups?

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1385 on: December 27, 2023, 12:48:47 PM »
Timo Werner rumoured to be on his way in

You’re usually more in the know than the average poster on transfers.  Do you know if wer looking to be strengthening the 1st 11 or signing back ups?

Genuinely not heard much recently. Very tight lipped at Villa these days

Believe they will be looking to upgrade the 11 and in turn the squad. However could defo be some short term options if it strengthens us for the second half run in.

For me priority needs to be

Right back
CM
Forward

Chambers, Traore, Dendonker out - Duran loan move 


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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1386 on: December 27, 2023, 12:52:21 PM »
I liked what I saw of Werner at Chelsea. He did lots right, it was just his finishing that let him down (a lot, in fairness).

But his movement always seemed intelligent to me and he looked technically decent. I think he'd be a good fit for Emery's style of play.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1387 on: December 27, 2023, 01:49:10 PM »
Timo Werner rumoured to be on his way in

You’re usually more in the know than the average poster on transfers.  Do you know if wer looking to be strengthening the 1st 11 or signing back ups?

Genuinely not heard much recently. Very tight lipped at Villa these days

Believe they will be looking to upgrade the 11 and in turn the squad. However could defo be some short term options if it strengthens us for the second half run in.

For me priority needs to be

Right back
CM
Forward

Chambers, Traore, Dendonker out - Duran loan move 



Probably a good thing that it's kept on the down low.  Think your priorities are right aside from CM where we really should be able to cope. 

The Werner thing feels a bit Heskey to me.  Who would be a modern day Arshavin?  Whoever that is, we should buy him. 

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1388 on: December 27, 2023, 02:02:45 PM »
Werner on loan seems a good deal to me, especially if the terms of a permanent deal are agreed before Emery triples his value.  Leipzig must be keen to off-load him so he should be cheap.

Seems a similar player to Watkins with good movement and running off the ball (but finishing could improve) so offers a genuine alternative when needed.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1389 on: December 27, 2023, 02:06:00 PM »
Werner was mentioned a couple of weeks ago I think. We could do with an extra option up front though.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1390 on: December 27, 2023, 02:18:09 PM »
His finishing was mostly arse biscuits at Chelsea.

But then so was Ollie's for a fair while before Emery's arrival.

I'm not mad keen on rehabilitating players who have struggled elsewhere. How many other top 4/5 aspiring teams go that route. But if Emery, Monchi and co see a worthwhile project there then fair e muff.

Offline AV84

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1391 on: December 27, 2023, 02:23:20 PM »
I'm not mad keen on rehabilitating players who have struggled elsewhere. How many other top 4/5 aspiring teams go that route. But if Emery, Monchi and co see a worthwhile project there then fair e muff.

Is it a case of Werner struggling or other players just playing really well at the moment? I'm sure I saw something about him and the manager too. It may not be a case of having to rehabilitate him, just him needing a move. I know goalkeepers are different but someone could sign Ramsdale in January and it's not a case of him needing rehabilitation, he just needs to play.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1392 on: December 27, 2023, 02:31:29 PM »
Werner was mentioned a couple of weeks ago I think. We could do with an extra option up front though.


Guilty as charged…when I mentioned him a few weeks ago it was the idea that he can do that pressing like Ollie…hopefully he’d see it as redemption in this country like Unai

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1393 on: December 27, 2023, 02:34:57 PM »
An attacking midfielder/striker is the main priority for me - we struggle to break down teams that put men behind the ball.

If Werner works out then I imagine we’ll be offloading at least 3 out of  Bailey, Buendia, Diaby, Zaniola and Dhuran over the next couple of windows allowing us some flex on ffp to strengthen elsewhere.


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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #1394 on: December 27, 2023, 02:54:56 PM »
Werner on loan seems a good deal to me, especially if the terms of a permanent deal are agreed before Emery triples his value.  Leipzig must be keen to off-load him so he should be cheap.

Seems a similar player to Watkins with good movement and running off the ball (but finishing could improve) so offers a genuine alternative when needed.

He's a much better footballer than Watkins but his finishing is no where near at least when he was at Chelsea. Like Watkins he likes to cut in from the left and shoot but I think Unai will use him as an attacking midfielder or deep lying striker, linking midfield with the attackers.

Probably a useful player to have around but not the alternative to Watkins we need.

 


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