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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #915 on: December 12, 2023, 11:11:05 AM »
Tammy is certainly a goalscorer but he is nowhere the same type of team player Watkins is. I would rather continue with Duran as his raw energy at least offers a true alternative if needed.

What if Duran gets injured does Watkins play every single game for 90 minutes?

I imagine Diaby or Zaniolo get a bit of extra game time. If Roma were happy to loan him out for six months, then fine. An extra body is no bad thing.

But I don't see why they'd want to do that and I definitely don't think we should be chucking £25m at them for him if they're not.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #916 on: December 12, 2023, 12:55:34 PM »
Abraham on loan would be a great bit of business.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #917 on: December 12, 2023, 01:08:51 PM »
Abraham on loan would be a great bit of business.

But, is he going to make a meaningful difference this season? He’s been out for months. Any player coming back from serious long term injury usually take time and patience to find fitness and form. That’s why even if Buendia and Mings were fit before the end of the season, they won’t make an impact.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #918 on: December 12, 2023, 01:16:35 PM »
Well, he should be ready by end of January. He knows the league and he should be ok with being back-up to Watkins while he gets match fit. It would give him time to get used to how Emery wants him to play and for Emery to have a good look at him to see whether he thinks he could be an asset. He would only have to knock in a few goals to have a significant impact.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #919 on: December 12, 2023, 01:18:43 PM »
I'm not convinced it's a move that would suit anybody tbh, but whatever Unai does is correct so if he does do it, I naturally support it.

Not that there's any indication that any of this is in his mind.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #920 on: December 12, 2023, 01:41:34 PM »
Tammy is certainly a goalscorer but he is nowhere the same type of team player Watkins is. I would rather continue with Duran as his raw energy at least offers a true alternative if needed.

What if Duran gets injured does Watkins play every single game for 90 minutes?

I imagine Diaby or Zaniolo get a bit of extra game time. If Roma were happy to loan him out for six months, then fine. An extra body is no bad thing.

But I don't see why they'd want to do that and I definitely don't think we should be chucking £25m at them for him if they're not.

There were rumours a few weeks ago that Roma had alerted clubs to Abraham being available for transfer, and that the player himself wanted a move back to England. It was all talking about in the summer, I think, but if we really did agree to buy him before he was injured, there might be a deal to be done now. I don't think Abraham is necessarily the answer to all our problems (not that we have many) but we've discussed the difficulties in getting another striker in, and Abraham coming back from injury might just fit the bill in the short term.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #921 on: December 12, 2023, 01:46:00 PM »
Tammy is certainly a goalscorer but he is nowhere the same type of team player Watkins is. I would rather continue with Duran as his raw energy at least offers a true alternative if needed.

What if Duran gets injured does Watkins play every single game for 90 minutes?

I imagine Diaby or Zaniolo get a bit of extra game time. If Roma were happy to loan him out for six months, then fine. An extra body is no bad thing.

But I don't see why they'd want to do that and I definitely don't think we should be chucking £25m at them for him if they're not.

There were rumours a few weeks ago that Roma had alerted clubs to Abraham being available for transfer, and that the player himself wanted a move back to England. It was all talking about in the summer, I think, but if we really did agree to buy him before he was injured, there might be a deal to be done now. I don't think Abraham is necessarily the answer to all our problems (not that we have many) but we've discussed the difficulties in getting another striker in, and Abraham coming back from injury might just fit the bill in the short term.

If I were all the parties involved, I would have thought that a straight Abraham / Lukaku swap is the thing that makes sense for everyone.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #922 on: December 12, 2023, 01:54:02 PM »
Last January
Arsenal signed Trossard £27m and Jorginho £12m

Cody Gakpo and Antony Gordon were signed for £45m
Newcastle finished 4th
Liverpool finished 5th

Chelsea in January were someone rampant
Enzo Fernandez £105m
Mykhailo Mudryk - Shakhtar Donetsk, £88m
Benoit Badiashile - £35m
Noni Madueke - £29m
Malo Gusto - £26.3m
Joao Felix - Loan

This January. Important to strengthen squad.
I think Villa have to bring one or two strong, quality players and excited to see who is coming in.


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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #923 on: December 12, 2023, 02:06:15 PM »
We had to be careful in the summer with FFP. It's not gone away.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #924 on: December 12, 2023, 02:18:24 PM »
Tammy is certainly a goalscorer but he is nowhere the same type of team player Watkins is. I would rather continue with Duran as his raw energy at least offers a true alternative if needed.

What if Duran gets injured does Watkins play every single game for 90 minutes?

I imagine Diaby or Zaniolo get a bit of extra game time. If Roma were happy to loan him out for six months, then fine. An extra body is no bad thing.

But I don't see why they'd want to do that and I definitely don't think we should be chucking £25m at them for him if they're not.

There were rumours a few weeks ago that Roma had alerted clubs to Abraham being available for transfer, and that the player himself wanted a move back to England. It was all talking about in the summer, I think, but if we really did agree to buy him before he was injured, there might be a deal to be done now. I don't think Abraham is necessarily the answer to all our problems (not that we have many) but we've discussed the difficulties in getting another striker in, and Abraham coming back from injury might just fit the bill in the short term.

If I were all the parties involved, I would have thought that a straight Abraham / Lukaku swap is the thing that makes sense for everyone.

I think it makes sense for three of the four parties involved. Chelsea Roma and Lukaku. I’m not sure it makes quite as much sense for Tammy unless he truly believes that his arrival and Poch as coach can turn things around.

All depends what other parties are interested in him I suppose.



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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #925 on: December 12, 2023, 02:26:03 PM »
Tammy is certainly a goalscorer but he is nowhere the same type of team player Watkins is. I would rather continue with Duran as his raw energy at least offers a true alternative if needed.

What if Duran gets injured does Watkins play every single game for 90 minutes?

I imagine Diaby or Zaniolo get a bit of extra game time. If Roma were happy to loan him out for six months, then fine. An extra body is no bad thing.

But I don't see why they'd want to do that and I definitely don't think we should be chucking £25m at them for him if they're not.

There were rumours a few weeks ago that Roma had alerted clubs to Abraham being available for transfer, and that the player himself wanted a move back to England. It was all talking about in the summer, I think, but if we really did agree to buy him before he was injured, there might be a deal to be done now. I don't think Abraham is necessarily the answer to all our problems (not that we have many) but we've discussed the difficulties in getting another striker in, and Abraham coming back from injury might just fit the bill in the short term.

If I were all the parties involved, I would have thought that a straight Abraham / Lukaku swap is the thing that makes sense for everyone.

I think it makes sense for three of the four parties involved. Chelsea Roma and Lukaku. I’m not sure it makes quite as much sense for Tammy unless he truly believes that his arrival and Poch as coach can turn things around.

All depends what other parties are interested in him I suppose.

I think it makes sense if it happened in the summer, rebuilding for next year. And Chelsea were one of the other English teams mentioned as being told he was available. The thing about it happening in January though is that he's likely to need a little bit of time to get back up to speed and with Jackson being off for Jan/Feb they can't really be spending money on a player who might not even be able to play a full game until mid Feb.

A loan to us would allow the player to ease back in, give us a 3rd forward option, and come the summer they could still do the swap deal with Lukaka. If the finances were favorable then I think it could suit all 3 clubs and the player in the long run. 

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #926 on: December 12, 2023, 02:31:19 PM »
Seems PL clubs have voted (according to Matt Law at the Telegraph) to restrict amortisation of contracts to 5 years like the rest of Europe…be interesting to see if any of it is applied retrospectively to Chelsea and their 8 year contract model…even if not it may restrict them going mad again in January

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #927 on: December 12, 2023, 02:44:35 PM »
Last January
Arsenal signed Trossard £27m and Jorginho £12m

Cody Gakpo and Antony Gordon were signed for £45m
Newcastle finished 4th
Liverpool finished 5th

Chelsea in January were someone rampant
Enzo Fernandez £105m
Mykhailo Mudryk - Shakhtar Donetsk, £88m
Benoit Badiashile - £35m
Noni Madueke - £29m
Malo Gusto - £26.3m
Joao Felix - Loan

This January. Important to strengthen squad.
I think Villa have to bring one or two strong, quality players and excited to see who is coming in.

As much as I would love to see a couple come in, January is always very difficult and our FFP situation hasn't changed. If we can shift out a couple then perhaps but otherwise I imagine focus will be on the summer.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #928 on: December 12, 2023, 02:44:45 PM »
Bit of an obvious loophole for whoever set FFP up.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #929 on: December 12, 2023, 02:46:59 PM »
Seems PL clubs have voted (according to Matt Law at the Telegraph) to restrict amortisation of contracts to 5 years like the rest of Europe

And oddly, it seems like Chelsea were one of them.

 


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