2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.

[ChicagoLion]

Valuations are incredibly subjective & will swing wildly from what a seller thinks the player is worth to what a purchaser thinks the player is worth.

From our perspective, Douglas Luiz would be worth more than what Arsenal paid for Declan Rice because he is a better footballer than Declan Rice. Plus, there is the add on because we don't want to sell. If the player forces the move, we then are looking at over £125m.

Now, is the player worth that?

Fuck no.

No footballer is worth £125m.

But is he worth that to Villa?

Fuck yes...

Because we don't want to sell him to Arsenal, or anybody...

He is worth whatever is in his release clause.

[OCD]

Even better, read your own posts back. "So at the very least something is happening with the player." No it isn't, it's just a reporter saying that Arsenal remain keen. But you keep on talking about Luiz being sold if it makes you happy, makes a change from meltdowns about Wayne Routledge I guess.

Romano has said that his info comes mainly directly from players/clubs/agents and it is usually because someone is trying to engineer something. There's talk we want to open negotiations about a new contract with Luiz too, and just like Watkins' agent was "seen" talking to someone from Arsenal in the weeks before he signed his new deal, it's not a huge leap to think that the Arsenal talk is being used by someone to leverage something else.

I'm not talking about him being sold either, as I've said repeatedly.

I don't think I've ever said the name Wayne Routledge never mind had a meltdown about him so I've no idea who or what that is aimed at.

Out of interest, have you ever been on here before under a different login?

No. And I don't appreciate the implications of that.

"I have never been arrested or indicted for any crime whatsoever; that no proof linking me to any criminal conspiracy whether it is called "Mafia" or "Cosa Nostra" or whatever other name you wish to give has ever been made public. I have not taken refuge behind the 5th amendment, though it is my right to do. I challenge this committee to produce any witness or evidence against me. And if they do not, I hope they will have the decency to clear my name with the same publicity with which they now have besmirched it."

Trump?

[Bad English]

Michael Corleone.

[danno]

Even better, read your own posts back. "So at the very least something is happening with the player." No it isn't, it's just a reporter saying that Arsenal remain keen. But you keep on talking about Luiz being sold if it makes you happy, makes a change from meltdowns about Wayne Routledge I guess.

Romano has said that his info comes mainly directly from players/clubs/agents and it is usually because someone is trying to engineer something. There's talk we want to open negotiations about a new contract with Luiz too, and just like Watkins' agent was "seen" talking to someone from Arsenal in the weeks before he signed his new deal, it's not a huge leap to think that the Arsenal talk is being used by someone to leverage something else.

I'm not talking about him being sold either, as I've said repeatedly.

I don't think I've ever said the name Wayne Routledge never mind had a meltdown about him so I've no idea who or what that is aimed at.

Out of interest, have you ever been on here before under a different login?

No. And I don't appreciate the implications of that.

"I have never been arrested or indicted for any crime whatsoever; that no proof linking me to any criminal conspiracy whether it is called "Mafia" or "Cosa Nostra" or whatever other name you wish to give has ever been made public. I have not taken refuge behind the 5th amendment, though it is my right to do. I challenge this committee to produce any witness or evidence against me. And if they do not, I hope they will have the decency to clear my name with the same publicity with which they now have besmirched it."

Trump?

So… you’ve not seen The Godfather part two? Good movie.

[OCD]

Should have known the language was too advanced for Trump.

[Lastfootstamper]

I'd be surprised if any of our players have a release clause valued lower than that of the last one we let escape by that route.

[AV84]

I'd be surprised if any of our players have a release clause valued lower than that of the last one we let escape by that route.

Depends on when the contracts were signed, I suppose. Dougie's was last October while we were 16th(?) and hadn't sacked Gerrard yet. £60mil back then may have been ambitious.

[VillaTim]

If Luiz has a release clause I would estimate it at £100m minimum .

[Dante Lavelli]

If Luiz has a release clause I would estimate it at £100m minimum .

I hope it is that region but Doug held all the cards at the time of negotiations so I’d be surprised if it is that high.

[passport1]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gm6922

Well worth a listen.

[VillaTim]

If Luiz has a release clause I would estimate it at £100m minimum .

I hope it is that region but Doug held all the cards at the time of negotiations so I’d be surprised if it is that high.

I guess we will find out soon enough. Even if he went I'd trust Emery to improve us , the man is a genius.

[Gareth]

If Luiz has a release clause I would estimate it at £100m minimum .

Not a hope, 2 months before he signed the contract he was 50/50 leaving for 20/25m…will be 50/60m tops, that is why we will be discussing a new contract asap

[Dave]

If there were a clause and he had any interest in going anywhere else, I'm pretty sure its existence would have been whispered to a friendly journalist at some point in the last twelve months.

[pablo_picasso]

Valuations are incredibly subjective & will swing wildly from what a seller thinks the player is worth to what a purchaser thinks the player is worth.

From our perspective, Douglas Luiz would be worth more than what Arsenal paid for Declan Rice because he is a better footballer than Declan Rice. Plus, there is the add on because we don't want to sell. If the player forces the move, we then are looking at over £125m.

Now, is the player worth that?

Fuck no.

No footballer is worth £125m.

But is he worth that to Villa?

Fuck yes...

Because we don't want to sell him to Arsenal, or anybody...

He is worth whatever is in his release clause.

Well, of course.

If a player has one...

[tomd2103]

Nahuel Molina?

I have never heard of him tbh, so missed that link.

If thats who Tom was mentioning, I retract my comment... 👍😉

Atletico Madrid right back. One of the poster's on here who's had good information before said that we're keen on him. He's got a Transfermarkt valuation of €50m but a £26m release clause in his contract.

That was the guy.  Seen a few links to him in the past few months.  From the cursory YouTube highlight packages, he looks just the type of attacking full-back who would fit in to the system we play (though I think Matty Cash has been doing fine recently).