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Author Topic: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.  (Read 410966 times)

Offline AV84

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #390 on: November 14, 2023, 03:27:30 PM »

Even better, read your own posts back. "So at the very least something is happening with the player." No it isn't, it's just a reporter saying that Arsenal remain keen. But you keep on talking about Luiz being sold if it makes you happy, makes a change from meltdowns about Wayne Routledge I guess.

Romano has said that his info comes mainly directly from players/clubs/agents and it is usually because someone is trying to engineer something. There's talk we want to open negotiations about a new contract with Luiz too, and just like Watkins' agent was "seen" talking to someone from Arsenal in the weeks before he signed his new deal, it's not a huge leap to think that the Arsenal talk is being used by someone to leverage something else.

I'm not talking about him being sold either, as I've said repeatedly.

I don't think I've ever said the name Wayne Routledge never mind had a meltdown about him so I've no idea who or what that is aimed at.

Out of interest, have you ever been on here before under a different login?

No. And I don't appreciate the implications of that.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #391 on: November 14, 2023, 03:55:15 PM »
Would love us to try and get Sam Curtis from St. Pat's. Looks to be a real prospect, only turning 18 in December and already has over 60 senior appearances.

Offline AV84

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #392 on: November 14, 2023, 04:03:46 PM »
Would love us to try and get Sam Curtis from St. Pat's. Looks to be a real prospect, only turning 18 in December and already has over 60 senior appearances.

By the sounds of it there's a fair few clubs interested in him, us included.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #393 on: November 14, 2023, 04:05:40 PM »
Would love us to try and get Sam Curtis from St. Pat's. Looks to be a real prospect, only turning 18 in December and already has over 60 senior appearances.

For the academy or the first team?

If Im thinking of the right kid, he's very energetic, has a bit of pace & is pretty versatile?

I watch a few games from Ireland when they put them on Sky, but its few & far between, so I might be getting him mixed up...

Offline 85kota

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #394 on: November 14, 2023, 06:04:05 PM »

Even better, read your own posts back. "So at the very least something is happening with the player." No it isn't, it's just a reporter saying that Arsenal remain keen. But you keep on talking about Luiz being sold if it makes you happy, makes a change from meltdowns about Wayne Routledge I guess.

Romano has said that his info comes mainly directly from players/clubs/agents and it is usually because someone is trying to engineer something. There's talk we want to open negotiations about a new contract with Luiz too, and just like Watkins' agent was "seen" talking to someone from Arsenal in the weeks before he signed his new deal, it's not a huge leap to think that the Arsenal talk is being used by someone to leverage something else.

I'm not talking about him being sold either, as I've said repeatedly.

I don't think I've ever said the name Wayne Routledge never mind had a meltdown about him so I've no idea who or what that is aimed at.

Fully agree. I don't see the problem in discussing a players value. It doesn't mean you think he will or want him to be sold. That shouldn't be difficult to understand or mean you are fed to the sharks.

Offline TelfordVilla

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #395 on: November 14, 2023, 06:27:40 PM »
Not sure what value you can put on a player that you are not willing to sell. Presumably you have to factor in the cost of buying a replacement. Equally unable to cost.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #396 on: November 14, 2023, 06:50:34 PM »
Valuations are incredibly subjective & will swing wildly from what a seller thinks the player is worth to what a purchaser thinks the player is worth.

From our perspective, Douglas Luiz would be worth more than what Arsenal paid for Declan Rice because he is a better footballer than Declan Rice. Plus, there is the add on because we don't want to sell. If the player forces the move, we then are looking at over £125m.

Now, is the player worth that?

Fuck no.

No footballer is worth £125m.

But is he worth that to Villa?

Fuck yes...

Because we don't want to sell him to Arsenal, or anybody...

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #397 on: November 14, 2023, 07:09:32 PM »
They don't have any choice but to determine a player's value in Spain, such is their contract law.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #398 on: November 14, 2023, 07:14:45 PM »

Even better, read your own posts back. "So at the very least something is happening with the player." No it isn't, it's just a reporter saying that Arsenal remain keen. But you keep on talking about Luiz being sold if it makes you happy, makes a change from meltdowns about Wayne Routledge I guess.

Romano has said that his info comes mainly directly from players/clubs/agents and it is usually because someone is trying to engineer something. There's talk we want to open negotiations about a new contract with Luiz too, and just like Watkins' agent was "seen" talking to someone from Arsenal in the weeks before he signed his new deal, it's not a huge leap to think that the Arsenal talk is being used by someone to leverage something else.

I'm not talking about him being sold either, as I've said repeatedly.

I don't think I've ever said the name Wayne Routledge never mind had a meltdown about him so I've no idea who or what that is aimed at.

Out of interest, have you ever been on here before under a different login?

No. And I don't appreciate the implications of that.

There aren't any implications, I'm just asking you whether you have.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #399 on: November 14, 2023, 07:32:30 PM »
Regarding a right back, won’t it be a more solid version rather than attacking “winger” type.  I think Emery prefers that lopsided defence where one fullback slides across to CB which neither Digne or Moreno can do.

   

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #400 on: November 14, 2023, 07:34:09 PM »
Would love us to try and get Sam Curtis from St. Pat's. Looks to be a real prospect, only turning 18 in December and already has over 60 senior appearances.

For the academy or the first team?

If Im thinking of the right kid, he's very energetic, has a bit of pace & is pretty versatile?

I watch a few games from Ireland when they put them on Sky, but its few & far between, so I might be getting him mixed up...
One for the future for sure but plenty of promise and the right age.

Offline AV84

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #401 on: November 14, 2023, 07:43:26 PM »
Valuations are incredibly subjective & will swing wildly from what a seller thinks the player is worth to what a purchaser thinks the player is worth.

From our perspective, Douglas Luiz would be worth more than what Arsenal paid for Declan Rice because he is a better footballer than Declan Rice. Plus, there is the add on because we don't want to sell. If the player forces the move, we then are looking at over £125m.

Now, is the player worth that?

Fuck no.

No footballer is worth £125m.

But is he worth that to Villa?

Fuck yes...

Because we don't want to sell him to Arsenal, or anybody...

Well yes, and this is what I posted earlier in the thread. Working off the fact they were interested in him before, and based off what they paid for Rice in the summer, and how Luiz compares to Rice, I was interested to know what they'd actually offer us for him.

For what it's worth, that transfermarket site values Dougie at €55mil, and Emile Smith-Rowe at €30mil.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #402 on: November 14, 2023, 07:53:50 PM »

For what it's worth, that transfermarket site values Dougie at €55mil, and Emile Smith-Rowe at €30mil.

I think they're off their trollies on bad drugs if they really think that.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #403 on: November 14, 2023, 08:11:39 PM »
Regarding a right back, won’t it be a more solid version rather than attacking “winger” type.  I think Emery prefers that lopsided defence where one fullback slides across to CB which neither Digne or Moreno can do.

   
that's what Kamara has been doing. When Cash goes walkies, Kamara slots in.

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Re: 2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #404 on: November 14, 2023, 08:33:41 PM »

Even better, read your own posts back. "So at the very least something is happening with the player." No it isn't, it's just a reporter saying that Arsenal remain keen. But you keep on talking about Luiz being sold if it makes you happy, makes a change from meltdowns about Wayne Routledge I guess.

Romano has said that his info comes mainly directly from players/clubs/agents and it is usually because someone is trying to engineer something. There's talk we want to open negotiations about a new contract with Luiz too, and just like Watkins' agent was "seen" talking to someone from Arsenal in the weeks before he signed his new deal, it's not a huge leap to think that the Arsenal talk is being used by someone to leverage something else.

I'm not talking about him being sold either, as I've said repeatedly.

I don't think I've ever said the name Wayne Routledge never mind had a meltdown about him so I've no idea who or what that is aimed at.

Out of interest, have you ever been on here before under a different login?

No. And I don't appreciate the implications of that.
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