Aston Villa v Everton Post-Match Thread

[wince]

Villa fans to our credit won't be mugged off as easily as the club would like. The new owners have just found it out for the first time.
I remember Doug Ellis pitching the ticket prices too high as well and had to adjust them mid season.

Another issue is that there are plenty of supporters like me who don't find it easy to get tickets to league games, and cup games like this would be a perfect way for us to get down to VP.

As fair-weather as it may be, each time we are limply dumped out of a cup, the less appetising this becomes.

Sums up my feelings exactly.

Mine too. Plus if do get a chance to go I wonder if we actually give a shit about the domestic cups. It’s not end of the world but if we aren’t taking it seriously why bother? Feel very distant from the club at the moment

[RamboandBruno]

Very weird atmosphere in the holte last night, combination of empty seats and regulars not there, and a lot of faces not normally in the area i sit, not singing but moaning and at the end booing a bit.

My son who has been going since the relegation years, actually commented that he really didn’t enjoy the experience last night. He wasn’t talking about the match, he’s seem loads better and loads worse, he was talking about the feel of the holte end.

Like many others Ive been in the holte when its subdued, anxious, angry, half empty in the late 80s, but last night just felt odd. A combination of people just seemingly detached or others just moaning.

Not an excuse for a poor performance, but all that has to rub off on the players.

Massive almighty fuck up by the club. £10 less per person and the place could of been rocking, and with the Everton lot in fine voice, it would be of been a cracking old atmosphere and cup tie.

[The Edge]

Very weird atmosphere in the holte last night, combination of empty seats and regulars not there, and a lot of faces not normally in the area i sit, not singing but moaning and at the end booing a bit.

My son who has been going since the relegation years, actually commented that he really didn’t enjoy the experience last night. He wasn’t talking about the match, he’s seem loads better and loads worse, he was talking about the feel of the holte end.

Like many others Ive been in the holte when its subdued, anxious, angry, half empty in the late 80s, but last night just felt odd. A combination of people just seemingly detached or others just moaning.

Not an excuse for a poor performance, but all that has to rub off on the players.

Massive almighty fuck up by the club. £10 less per person and the place could of been rocking, and with the Everton lot in fine voice, it would be of been a cracking old atmosphere and cup tie.

The question is are the club aware of their pricing cock up and more importantly will they learn from it? £25 for adults and a tenner for U16's would have bought in another 10,000 and the extra volume from the home end may well have spurred the team on or at least woke them up. Not to mention the extra revenues from catering. It's a no brainer.

[LeonW]

Very weird atmosphere in the holte last night, combination of empty seats and regulars not there, and a lot of faces not normally in the area i sit, not singing but moaning and at the end booing a bit.

My son who has been going since the relegation years, actually commented that he really didn’t enjoy the experience last night. He wasn’t talking about the match, he’s seem loads better and loads worse, he was talking about the feel of the holte end.

Like many others Ive been in the holte when its subdued, anxious, angry, half empty in the late 80s, but last night just felt odd. A combination of people just seemingly detached or others just moaning.

Not an excuse for a poor performance, but all that has to rub off on the players.

Massive almighty fuck up by the club. £10 less per person and the place could of been rocking, and with the Everton lot in fine voice, it would be of been a cracking old atmosphere and cup tie.

The question is are the club aware of their pricing cock up and more importantly will they learn from it? £25 for adults and a tenner for U16's would have bought in another 10,000 and the extra volume from the home end may well have spurred the team on or at least woke them up. Not to mention the extra revenues from catering. It's a no brainer.

You’d have to assume that they are and that’s why they’ve not published the attendance figures…which only serves to draw even more attention to it.

[Ads]

23,000 and change apparently. I think that will have sent a message, that only 19,000 turned up and they managed to lose probably close to 20,000 season ticket holders off the attendance. Fucking morons.

[N'ZMAV]

as soon as it goes wrong on the pitch the owners will start getting a lot of bad attention for some of the fuck-ups.

[Ads]

The shite atmosphere last night contributed to the result. The players were listless. It was a very passive  performance against a side who were woeful. They couldn't get themselves up and there wasn't enough of us to create an atmosphere. The result is on the club and the fucking moron who priced the majority of season ticket holders out.

Some of which will have just come back from Poland, paid for flights and accommodation in Amsterdam, were at the Bridge, shelled out £90 on the European home games, or a combination of the above. Throw in the contempt we've been held in with the abysmal downgrading of the Upper Holte, the total bastardisation of the stand in general with Terrace View and Lower Grounds (which was booed louder at half time than any song was sung during the game) and you've alienated people, driven them away and contributed significantly, as much as McGinn at left back, to getting us knocked out the cup. You clueless, arrogant wankers.

[LeonW]

The way it’s poised right now, I think they’re either going to fess up and correct things or they’re going to double down. I think it’s going to be the latter.

[Pat McMahon]

I’ve seen a number of people confirm that Newcastle charged £15 last night and food and drink were half price, resulting in a grand win for them.

I also heard from an Arsenal mate today that since Wenger started using the league cup to experiment they have charged £10 for adults and £5 for kids. European games included in season tickets too. Seems ludicrously sensible.

I think the pricing sent out a really poor message before the game, which resulted in a very poor attendance and a team unable to motivate themselves and generate any momentum from a lethargic crowd. Throw in a large and boisterous away following and you have an self harming disaster.

[nick harper]

as soon as it goes wrong on the pitch the owners will start getting a lot of bad attention for some of the fuck-ups.

Yes, obviously the league results are glossing over things at the moment, results being better than performances.

It won’t take much of a downturn for the discontent off the pitch to become louder and it’s hard to understand why the feel-good factor at the end of last season so brilliantly generated by Emery and the team is so carelessly being thrown away by the club. It’s nothing less than arrogance and complacency towards the fans.

[AV84]

Its been said before but it sounds like they're trying to rush things as far as developing the financial side of things goes. I know money should lead to success and then success should lead to more money, but I'm sure there's more reasonable ways to go about it.

[The Edge]

I’ve seen a number of people confirm that Newcastle charged £15 last night and food and drink were half price, resulting in a grand win for them.

I also heard from an Arsenal mate today that since Wenger started using the league cup to experiment they have charged £10 for adults and £5 for kids. European games included in season tickets too. Seems ludicrously sensible.

I think the pricing sent out a really poor message before the game, which resulted in a very poor attendance and a team unable to motivate themselves and generate any momentum from a lethargic crowd. Throw in a large and boisterous away following and you have an self harming disaster.

I watched some of the Newcastle/Man City game and the ground was rocking. It was impressive for a 4th round EFL cup game but now I know that tickets were 15 quid and food was half price I'm even more annoyed with the fools who got things so spectacularly wrong for our game. We've been blown away by the quality of our new owners until now. They've invested fortunes and someone needs to get a grip. I totally understand that the club needs to build revenue but they're not listening to the fans. The Holte End should be sacrosanct.

[tomd2103]

The shite atmosphere last night contributed to the result. The players were listless. It was a very passive  performance against a side who were woeful. They couldn't get themselves up and there wasn't enough of us to create an atmosphere. The result is on the club and the fucking moron who priced the majority of season ticket holders out.

Some of which will have just come back from Poland, paid for flights and accommodation in Amsterdam, were at the Bridge, shelled out £90 on the European home games, or a combination of the above. Throw in the contempt we've been held in with the abysmal downgrading of the Upper Holte, the total bastardisation of the stand in general with Terrace View and Lower Grounds (which was booed louder at half time than any song was sung during the game) and you've alienated people, driven them away and contributed significantly, as much as McGinn at left back, to getting us knocked out the cup. You clueless, arrogant wankers.

Yeah I picked up on the booing in the Holte when Lower Grounds came on the big screen at ht.  Not heard of it before - what is it?

[RamboandBruno]

What bothers me more than anything is not even that Heck and his cronies have been brought into to create as much corporate space as possible, its modern football bla bla etc. its that they literally started with the Holte End. The heartbeat of the stadium, the area of the ground that has literally sucked the ball over the line on so many occasions over the years, the part of the ground that has driven the players forwards with a minute to go.

They have either not done their research properly on the history of the club, which would be shoddy in the extreme. Or they know what the Holte is and means and don’t give a shit. A third more sinister option would be they are purposely trying to break the Holte from what it has always been.

Whichever one it is or a combination of all of them, last night was the first glimpse of that brave new world, and it was a fucking souless pit of nothingness.

Im absolutely raging the more I think about it. And if the lower grounds raised a boo from that cauldron of disengagement last night, I expect it to be very loud and obvious if they try that again at half time on Saturday.

[Percy McCarthy]

I looked through the windows of the Holte Suite and they’ve got a lot to do to get it ready.

Thing is, nobody would give a shit if they hired the Majestic and made it corporate, or the Aston Hotel or the Academy. They’ve started in the worst possible place.