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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #75 on: September 07, 2023, 08:53:24 PM »
Unfortunately this is the price we have to pay if we want to compete and get the better players in.



It really isn't.

How come?
Not being facetious, I happen to think it is.
You can certainly change my opinion, though 👍

It absolutely is.

These owners have ponied up huge amounts of money that was earned through hard work and sacrifice. That may well be motivated by personal ego (definitely would be if any of us had enough billions to own the Villa), but FFP links how much they can chuck in to the amount we earn (or more to to point if we lose less we can spend more).

It's very easy to spend other peoples money, how many of use would cough up umpteen hundreds of millions? How many of us want us to have a weaker squad but spend less and be fine for FFP? Not many.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #76 on: September 07, 2023, 08:58:59 PM »
Nigel, have a look at our nett spend over the last 3 seasons. Just short of £100 million for us and one of the least nett spends, over that period, than the rest of the other EPL clubs. When you add in that some clubs are spending over £100 million for fun on just 1 player, it puts things in perspective, considering how much our season tickets have increased over these last 3 seasons. Plus, add to the equation that, despite huge season ticket price increases, the level of cleanliness and service at Villa Park is less than adequate. We keep hearing how in the “next” transfer window we are going to compete with the top club, in terms of cost of transfers, but in reality, we are still waiting for those big guns coming to us. Maybe next transfer window?? Won’t hold my breath though.

Only a £100m!!!! Would you put a £100 million in to the club? Doubt it.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #77 on: September 07, 2023, 09:01:44 PM »
Nigel, have a look at our nett spend over the last 3 seasons. Just short of £100 million for us and one of the least nett spends, over that period, than the rest of the other EPL clubs. When you add in that some clubs are spending over £100 million for fun on just 1 player, it puts things in perspective, considering how much our season tickets have increased over these last 3 seasons. Plus, add to the equation that, despite huge season ticket price increases, the level of cleanliness and service at Villa Park is less than adequate. We keep hearing how in the “next” transfer window we are going to compete with the top club, in terms of cost of transfers, but in reality, we are still waiting for those big guns coming to us. Maybe next transfer window?? Won’t hold my breath though.
Brighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #78 on: September 07, 2023, 09:08:04 PM »
Brighton are doing a 3 match bundle for their group matches. Depending on where in the ground it's £75, £85 or £100 for adults. So you can watch them play the likes of Ajax and Marseille for less than we're charging for Everton reserves.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #79 on: September 07, 2023, 09:15:21 PM »
Brighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.

To be fair Brighton have achieved nothing and Leicester just got relegated so not sure your point stands.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #80 on: September 07, 2023, 09:17:12 PM »
Brighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.

Whilst I agree we should maximise that, we have to do it before we spend it. In fairness to the club they have potted Purslow and appointed a whole new set of people to do just that. However right now we do not have that revenue, and may never get it. Hoipefully Chris Heck is better than whoever they have at Brighton - we certainly have a higher ceiling.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #81 on: September 07, 2023, 09:20:22 PM »
Brighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.

To be fair Brighton have achieved nothing and Leicester just got relegated so not sure your point stands.

We've achieved nothing and I must have imagined Leicester winning the league and the FA Cup.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #82 on: September 07, 2023, 09:20:46 PM »
I have no problem with the club maximising revenue, but I really don't think it's acceptable to walk on filthy floors, sit in filthy stands and piss into blocked urinals.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #83 on: September 07, 2023, 09:21:01 PM »
Everton sent out their 2nd string side against Doncaster and very nearly lost. They had to send on the "big guns" to win the match for them, so I don't know why people think they're going to send a second string team to Villa Park.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #84 on: September 07, 2023, 09:21:30 PM »
Brighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.

To be fair Brighton have achieved nothing and Leicester just got relegated so not sure your point stands.

We've achieved nothing and I must have imagined Leicester winning the league and the FA Cup.

I certainly didn't imagine them getting relegated when they had to reign in spending.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #85 on: September 07, 2023, 09:22:03 PM »
Everton sent out their 2nd string side against Doncaster and very nearly lost. They had to send on the "big guns" to win the match for them, so I don't know why people think they're going to send a second string team to Villa Park.

Because it's unimportant for them.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #86 on: September 07, 2023, 09:23:04 PM »
I have no problem with the club maximising revenue, but I really don't think it's acceptable to walk on filthy floors, sit in filthy stands and piss into blocked urinals.

Now that I can 100% agree with. Think the same every time I go through Manchester airport.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #87 on: September 07, 2023, 09:24:26 PM »
Brighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.

To be fair Brighton have achieved nothing and Leicester just got relegated so not sure your point stands.

We've achieved nothing and I must have imagined Leicester winning the league and the FA Cup.

I certainly didn't imagine them getting relegated when they had to reign in spending.

After they'd won more than we have in over forty years.

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #88 on: September 07, 2023, 09:28:21 PM »
Brighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.

To be fair Brighton have achieved nothing and Leicester just got relegated so not sure your point stands.

We've achieved nothing and I must have imagined Leicester winning the league and the FA Cup.

I certainly didn't imagine them getting relegated when they had to reign in spending.

After they'd won more than we have in over forty years.

Swap places now?

Which of our signings this summer would you not have signed due to the lack of revenue from the increases? Torres, Diaby or Teilemans? In reality that is the kind of choice that would have to be made until revenues from other areas are improved - which they seem quite keen on goven the number of off field appointments recently.

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I should add that I am equally unreasonable. I want unlimited spending, no FFP and an owner that will spunk billions that made his/her money in a nice way and is not an oil state. l also would never ever put 100s of millions of my own cash in. I just don't think thats available right now.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2023, 09:32:52 PM by ASHTONVILLA »

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Re: Fleecing.
« Reply #89 on: September 07, 2023, 09:29:52 PM »
Brighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.

To be fair Brighton have achieved nothing and Leicester just got relegated so not sure your point stands.

We've achieved nothing and I must have imagined Leicester winning the league and the FA Cup.

I certainly didn't imagine them getting relegated when they had to reign in spending.

After they'd won more than we have in over forty years.

It was unsustainable though.  Like ours in the Bendall and Lerner years.   You can’t have both low income and success for long.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2023, 09:31:41 PM by oldhill_avfc »

 


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