Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithe]

Well, for the second goal, whilst there were players clearly offside when the ball came in, the fella who got to it and knocked it to Isak, wasn’t.

[Monty]

Well, for the second goal, whilst there were players clearly offside when the ball came in, the fella who got to it and knocked it to Isak, wasn’t.

Cash was massively fouled. And I thought the other one was off by a whole leg

[PeterWithe]

Didn’t see too much wrong with it myself, players can’t help being stronger than others.

Overall, I think we lost because we didn’t get close to them in terms of aggression and intensity, bit of a cliche but at all levels you have to have players winning their individual battles against the opposition and who did, I’d argue no one. A complete mirror image of the VP game.

All is not lost mind, we will go a long time before we see a whole team all perform so poorly.

[Monty]

I think we lost fair enough but that they did get more than the rub of the green at crucial times, which at least contributed to the scoreline and at most tipped the balance. And I think we can expect plenty more of it this season.

[Clampy]

It reminded me of the Leicester game at home last season a bit. We conceded 11 in the space of three games and turned it round so let's see how they react.

[Percy McCarthy]

Emery got it the starting line up wrong. If we had an exta body in midfield, parked the bus early and quieten the crowd it could of been a different game.
Maybe he thought he Bailey would get some joy against Burn, I was suprised we didn't target him more.

The head scratcher for me is we targeted him a treat in April with McGinn. Today he played on the opposite side of the pitch.

[baddowvillans]

Well, for the second goal, whilst there were players clearly offside when the ball came in, the fella who got to it and knocked it to Isak, wasn’t.

But isaak was

[PeterWithe]

Not when the defender got to the cross to knock it to him.

You saw how teams are changing to adapt the very next time we got an attacking free kick, McGinn took it and 3 of ours were stood miles off on the 18 yard line, but as the ball missed them all out, no flag.

[The Edge]

Newcastle benefited from a VAR decision that went there way despite several of their players being offside including the eventual scorer but we were well  beaten anyway so not really crucial. Luton got a ridiculous penalty for handball while Arsenal got away with a similar one against Forest. Is VAR corrupt? I sometimes wonder but it's definitely inept.

[dorsetvillian]

Another nightmare game at Newcastle. Big moment for me, apart from the Ming's injury, was Watkins missing a golden chance at 2-1. Until that point and all the first half it was an open yet even game. We shaded the good chances. All fell apart in the second half. We will miss Ty but in Carlos and Torres we have purchased two of the best CH's in Spain so hopefully they can step up and learn fast. Loosing 2 players for the season means we have effectively only added one senior player to the squad. With the extra games that won't be enough. So unless more major signings come in, I just don't think it's to be expected that we should finish higher than last season. All those around us have stronger squads. Such a frustrating start to the season when expectations only a week ago were so high.

[Clampy]

Another nightmare game at Newcastle. Big moment for me, apart from the Ming's injury, was Watkins missing a golden chance at 2-1. Until that point and all the first half it was an open yet even game. We shaded the good chances. All fell apart in the second half. We will miss Ty but in Carlos and Torres we have purchased two of the best CH's in Spain so hopefully they can step up and learn fast. Loosing 2 players for the season means we have effectively only added one senior player to the squad. With the extra games that won't be enough. So unless more major signings come in, I just don't think it's to be expected that we should finish higher than last season. All those around us have stronger squads. Such a frustrating start to the season when expectations only a week ago were so high.

You can't say we've only added one player to the squad when we've signed three. I can' see what you're saying but it's wrong to put it like that.

[john e]

Why do people keep saying the fella that scored the first goal was offside when he wasn’t
VAR draw the lines down to a Nats cock
Yes, others were offside but not the one that touched the ball first
Don’t go down the conspiracy rabbit hole we lost because we were rubbish on the day

[cdward]

If the Watkins miss and the chance Cash missed had been scored, it’s a different game.
The Konsa mistake on top of those misses just cemented the result.
Gordon gave Cash nightmares and Bailey was poor.
Maybe this is the start of the Pau, Diego partnership.
Still gutted we lost.
In Emery we trust

[LeonW]

Massive reality check. Newcastle weren’t that good and it wasn’t a 5-1 result based upon the performance, but we were nowhere near good enough. Kamara and Bailey were awful. McGinn completely absent and our team tactics very questionable.

You don’t lose your first game of the season 5-1 against a rival and expect to do anything in the season without some significant changes.

Newcastle played very well, don't be daft. They're a very good side, and last season we battered them also. Chill

I don’t think it was a 5-1 game but after Konsa messed up it was game over and in that sense, it was majorly disappointing. We weren’t really in it second half and I put that down more to us to them. As opening day performances go it was a huge disappointment. Kamara goes to sleep for Tonali’s goal, Konsa messes up for the third. By the time goals 4 and 5 go in we’ve given up. It was always going to be a hard game but boy did we make it much easier for them. We lost 4-0 to them with a caretaker manager last season. Of course it’s a massive reality check. This was a game against a rival and we massively, massively fluffed our lines and that should be a concern. Fair play to you if you can chill on that and think all will be rosey.

[Clampy]

It's not a case of thinking everything will be rosy. The game has gone now, it's about putting it right next time out.