Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Flamingo Lane]

Yes, for all the various misfortunes and indeed calamities that came along at fairly regular intervals, the cast was pretty much set by those opening minutes.

[pauliewalnuts]

I woner what a player like Diaby is feeling tonight? "I turned down a million quid a week for this?!?!?!?!11111"

Nah, I think that's going a bit too far.

It was a shit result, a poor performance, Diaby scored, which is nice, but we suffered a second hideous injury in three days, and struggled.

I'd much rather not lose on the first day of the season, especially against Saudi Arabia, and it was a disturbing day in general, but we'll absolutely fucking funeral Everton and be back on course.

[Stu]

I think the Buendia injury changed things late for us and then the psychological impact of Tyrone getting stretchered off. It was always going to be hard but what looks to be ACL injuries to two starting players in two days is a hell of a blow. Monchi will likely have to go and find another defender now, and the incoming loan player has done his ACL twice before now, I’ve just discovered. Weeeyyyyy

[Hillbilly]

We’ve already been through the dodgy offside goals but I can’t see that anyone has brought up the dead set penalty. Luiz had his leg taken away while he was in control of the ball. Nothing.

But I think the big issue was missing Buendia. We looked flat without his buzzing and nark. It looks like he was more important than we gave him credit for.

And poor Tyrone. A second major knee injury.

[SoccerHQ]

Another thing I found myself thinking, Isak is a much, much better player than Watkins, technically miles better, different level.

Their second choice striker Wilson is also very decent, much better than our 'options' which are a couple of inexperienced kids.

I get the entire "yeah but who would we get if we wanted to improve on Watkins" idea, but Newcastle spent 65m on Isak. They're our peers, they are the people we need to be competing with, maybe we need to go out and be bold and do the same?

Well Wilson was an option in summer 2020 of course. People didn't want him then as he was constantly injured but excellent scoring record at Newcastle, infact it's pretty much largely mirrored his output at Bournemouth and he'll be a very good player to bring on for last 20 minutes as their season goes on.

Across Newcastle's forward line they have him, Isak and Almiron which was about 40 prem goals last season. Addition of Barnes takes that to over 50 given he hit double figures for Leicester so that's why they'll be in contention for top 4 again.

For a team actually in europe our forward options are pretty naff when you look at it:

Ollie- Frustrating today but hit double figures in all his prem seasons so remains our best CF starter as it stands.

Diaby- Excellent debut and looks that next level forward player we've demanded last three years as he can drop in and link up with midfield no problem

Big drop off after those two though...

Coutinho....Basically impact sub now. Won't stay fit if starting 2-3 games.

Bailey- Rubbish first half and generally very poor in away games in his two seasons.

Buendia- N/A

Archer- Probably leaving.

Duran- Very raw, should be loaned out and missed all of pre season injured anyway.

It's not exactly an attack to have an assault on four competitions is it?

Last season West Ham had Antonio, Bowen, Benrahama and then added Ings mid season and that was widely considered not good enough but just about got them over the line in europe so we are well short imo.

If we can sign a decent RW then I think that gives us flexibility to go something like Ramsey-Diaby-RW in certain games.

I presume Zaniolo will be more of a Buendia replacement based on his profile.

[pauliewalnuts]

Wilson had the chance to join us or Newcastle, and chose Newcastle.

[PeterWithesShin]

Imagine Wilson and our injury record? We'd be burying the poor fecker within 6 months.

[TonyD]

When I looked at starting line up it was obvious to me it was light defensively.
Add Bailey and we are effectively playing with 10 men.  Or worse with him nine. 

[SoccerHQ]

Wilson had the chance to join us or Newcastle, and chose Newcastle.

Of course but at the time people were saying he had endless injuries at Bournemouth (he's played 75 prem games in three seasons up there) and also why bother signing him when he'd just be an expensive back up to Ollie rather than options to rotate.

Just because Ings didn't work out dosen't mean we should abort attempt to get another decent forward in the squad although I suspect it will be more of a right sided player e.g. Brennan Johnson.

If the plan is just to expect Ollie to start 60 games this season he'll be joining walking wounded FC soon enough.

[TonyD]

But it’s only one game.
I sure hope Emery never never never plays Bailey again.
He is never never never gonna become consistently good enough at this level

[Pat McMahon]

Thought some of the pre match optimism on this site a little over the top. Our failure to make a telling tackle or get a foot in during the first 10 minutes reeked of complacency.

I was out with Chico Hamilton III last night and said I had a bad feeling about today.  I think there has been an assumption we’d just pick up our form from the end of last season which wasn’t exactly the case today.

[TonyD]

Take a chill pill guys.
A bad, yes a very bad day at the office.
But the season is still young.

[ROBBO]

Saw the result then decided to watch the recording, have to say I saw a different game to most. Yes the result was a disappointment  but we still played some nice football, when Mings was down injured Watkins missed a golden chance to put us level, when Barnes was adjudged to be onside why didn't we see the line drawn on the screen, to me and the commentator he looked a mile off. Konsa was at fault for their third which virtually finished the game. I thought Torres did okay and Diaby, well, can we buy two more like him please.
Apart from Bailey who should be sold as quickly as possible we still have a decent squad, it isn't all gloom and doom.
 

[Des Little]

Just home. I thought days like today were a thing of the past, I was wrong.

Get well soon Tyrone and get better soon the rest of the fcukers.

Good night.

[Axl Rose]

We never do well in their turn up the PA to create an atmosphere, dump.

Even when Bruce was in charge, we couldn't win.

An awful start to the season. Am not impressed with so many of our players.