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Author Topic: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?  (Read 18646 times)

Online Martyn Smith

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2023, 05:21:17 AM »
Assuming Carlos doesn't Stas out, then that's 2 senior options for each of left and right CB...kind of what a team with European ambitions needs?...

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2023, 10:49:50 AM »
Footy asked for ‘Both’ to be added to the poll so I have and I also added ‘Other’ as there are other options available.

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2023, 10:59:01 AM »
I think Konsa and Mings will start the season, unless they get injured in pre season

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2023, 12:04:23 PM »
I voted other.

Its a squad game when you are fighting at the upper echelons of football, so pick whoever fits best for the game-plan tailored towards the next opposition.

But I have no issues picking two left footed centre backs any more than I do two right footers.

Manchester City & Liverpool have won titles & cups, including Champions League, doing just the exact thing with two right footers, so it can be successful.




« Last Edit: July 18, 2023, 12:05:55 PM by pablo_picasso »

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2023, 12:38:55 PM »
It will depend on form, injuries, suspensions, and rotations. A first choice pairing will emerge - it could be any 2 of the 4 we have, but if we do have a run in Europe, then I doubt any of them will start more than 35 games this season.

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2023, 01:10:09 PM »
All other things being equal (injuries etc) I think Konsa and Mings will start the season.

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #51 on: July 18, 2023, 01:12:17 PM »
All other things being equal (injuries etc) I think Konsa and Mings will start the season.

Agreed.

And they have earned that right with their play.

(One of those cases that I admit freely that I got it completely wrong...)

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #52 on: July 20, 2023, 03:02:42 PM »
Torres will need to earn the shirt...anything else is disrespectful after the way Mings and Konsa ended the season...

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #53 on: July 20, 2023, 08:17:03 PM »
Footy asked for ‘Both’ to be added to the poll so I have and I also added ‘Other’ as there are other options available.
Thanks for updating.
And it's great Bednarek is not an option
What a few months in football can make

We had Bednarek and now we have Pau Torres.

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #54 on: July 20, 2023, 08:21:29 PM »
Torres will need to earn the shirt...anything else is disrespectful after the way Mings and Konsa ended the season...
I think, or would hope, that Emery will be telling the players what he wants from them in each game and picking the team he thinks will FTF!

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #55 on: July 20, 2023, 08:46:56 PM »
Torres will need to earn the shirt...anything else is disrespectful after the way Mings and Konsa ended the season...
I think, or would hope, that Emery will be telling the players what he wants from them in each game and picking the team he thinks will FTF!
Earn the shirt? He's Emerys man for the love of Maria!
We've seen how ruthless Emery is we brought in a left back named Moreno who was a revelation and was more suited to football.
We moved Ings on after he was captain a week before.
He made Cash and McGinn complie with the coaches and improve to get back in the team and had strong words with Emi Martinez conduct
I think in this game Emery has his ideas and Pau Torres is central to that.

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2023, 03:52:38 PM »
Very interested to see the line up v Newcastle and over the summer series. I think they may get a half each unless it's a back 3

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2023, 04:03:40 PM »
Torres will need to earn the shirt...anything else is disrespectful after the way Mings and Konsa ended the season...

I get the point being made but I dont necessarily buy into that line of thinking. I'd want Emery to pick the players that he thinks are the best options regardless of form from last season. If he and his coaching staff believe Torres to be the best CB option then he should start.

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #58 on: July 23, 2023, 04:16:52 PM »
Torres will need to earn the shirt...anything else is disrespectful after the way Mings and Konsa ended the season...

I get the point being made but I dont necessarily buy into that line of thinking. I'd want Emery to pick the players that he thinks are the best options regardless of form from last season. If he and his coaching staff believe Torres to be the best CB option then he should start.
Pau is exceptional.  The only issue I would have is the possibly physical side and this is even more lost without Mings
 Pau is there to start attacks and carry the ball and make far better use of the ball Mings ever could. Mings is totally left footed but can't play the balls Pau does.

Last season when Mings didn't play in 5 matches we lost all 5.
And we have only beaten a poor Norwich when Mings hasn't been in the team

I'm absolutely fascinated of what is to happen to Mings.
Pau first team starter for me 100% He's Emerys man.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2023, 04:20:04 PM by Footy-Vill »

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Re: Should Pau Torres and Tyrone Mings both start?
« Reply #59 on: July 23, 2023, 04:30:21 PM »
Interesting part in Emery's press conference where he mentioned playing with 3 centre backs on occasion.

I like that. We need to be versatile enough to play various systems, formations, tactics and not have one set, predictable  XI that plays every week.

I noticed this in the transfer thread and decided it would be appropriate to bring it here for the debate of the centre back position. So this news that has come to light of a report that a back three is being considered is really intriguing.

 


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