Ramón Rodríguez Verdejo (AKA Monchi)

[pauliewalnuts]

Since Monchi left we’ve played 10 matches and won 8 of them.

Coincidence?

[Chris Smith]

Since Monchi left we’ve played 10 matches and won 8 of them.

Coincidence?

Probably.

[Percy McCarthy]

Diaby was sold for what we paid, wasn't he, give or take? And Enzo may yet go on to be a £50m+ player of which we'll see little of. Granted, that's more on Unai than Monchi.

I mean, he might do ... but at 24 years old, he's leaving it a bit late.  We've got €15m for him that we don't have to get from selling another actual first team player, I suspect we've made the right call there.  We've let him go maybe a bit cheaper than we should, but I'd rather that than the alternative.

If he goes for €42/45m or more we get another €10m. So that would be €25m to add to whatever we got in cash for Dougie. Plus whatever we eventually get for SIJ.

[Dante Lavelli]

Diaby was sold for what we paid, wasn't he, give or take? And Enzo may yet go on to be a £50m+ player of which we'll see little of. Granted, that's more on Unai than Monchi.

I mean, he might do ... but at 24 years old, he's leaving it a bit late.  We've got €15m for him that we don't have to get from selling another actual first team player, I suspect we've made the right call there.  We've let him go maybe a bit cheaper than we should, but I'd rather that than the alternative.

I think we get a decent chunk of any profit (25%?) so there could be a few more million coming our way.  Given the trajectory of the players since the transfer, we've probably done okay on the Luiz deal.  Amazing considering how good Luiz had been for us.

[Percy McCarthy]

Diaby was sold for what we paid, wasn't he, give or take? And Enzo may yet go on to be a £50m+ player of which we'll see little of. Granted, that's more on Unai than Monchi.

I mean, he might do ... but at 24 years old, he's leaving it a bit late.  We've got €15m for him that we don't have to get from selling another actual first team player, I suspect we've made the right call there.  We've let him go maybe a bit cheaper than we should, but I'd rather that than the alternative.

I think we get a decent chunk of any profit (25%?) so there could be a few more million coming our way.  Given the trajectory of the players since the transfer, we've probably done okay on the Luiz deal.  Amazing considering how good Luiz had been for us.

Reported as 30% of any profit Benfica make, up to a maximum of €10m.

[Dave]

Diaby was sold for what we paid, wasn't he, give or take? And Enzo may yet go on to be a £50m+ player of which we'll see little of. Granted, that's more on Unai than Monchi.

I mean, he might do ... but at 24 years old, he's leaving it a bit late.  We've got €15m for him that we don't have to get from selling another actual first team player, I suspect we've made the right call there.  We've let him go maybe a bit cheaper than we should, but I'd rather that than the alternative.

I think we get a decent chunk of any profit (25%?) so there could be a few more million coming our way.  Given the trajectory of the players since the transfer, we've probably done okay on the Luiz deal.  Amazing considering how good Luiz had been for us.

I think the thing that will ultimately decide how the DL sale is seen in a few years is what Onana does with his Villa career. While they do different jobs, he's effectively taken his spot in the squad.

If he goes on to play 200-300 matches or develops into someone clearly better than DL and goes to Bayern for £130m, then I think it will be seen as us upgrading to a better player for similar money.

If he ends up playing another 30 matches and we sell him in a couple of years to Rennes for £10m then the sale of DL will look like it was bad business.

[Dante Lavelli]

I think it is fair to say Monchi had lost his midas touch.  More worrying was the admin errors with Malen last summer, and potentially Elliot this year, suggesting he wasn't as in synch as he should be.

However...

Emery is running at a transfer surplus since he joined - and Monchi was there for most of it - so he deserves credit too.

[john e]

Since Monchi left we’ve played 10 matches and won 8 of them.

Coincidence?

Probably.

I never disliked Monchi but something was definitely not right at the beginning of the season
And everything did change when he left so I do think there’s something in it

[Drummond]

Diaby was sold for what we paid, wasn't he, give or take? And Enzo may yet go on to be a £50m+ player of which we'll see little of. Granted, that's more on Unai than Monchi.

I mean, he might do ... but at 24 years old, he's leaving it a bit late.  We've got €15m for him that we don't have to get from selling another actual first team player, I suspect we've made the right call there.  We've let him go maybe a bit cheaper than we should, but I'd rather that than the alternative.

I think we get a decent chunk of any profit (25%?) so there could be a few more million coming our way.  Given the trajectory of the players since the transfer, we've probably done okay on the Luiz deal.  Amazing considering how good Luiz had been for us.

I think the thing that will ultimately decide how the DL sale is seen in a few years is what Onana does with his Villa career. While they do different jobs, he's effectively taken his spot in the squad.

If he goes on to play 200-300 matches or develops into someone clearly better than DL and goes to Bayern for £130m, then I think it will be seen as us upgrading to a better player for similar money.

If he ends up playing another 30 matches and we sell him in a couple of years to Rennes for £10m then the sale of DL will look like it was bad business.

I think Tielemans was brought in to replace him, and Onana to offer us something different. Like you say though, his impact on the team is important for what we paid and there are signs he's getting better and more consistent.

The other thing is how Luiz has done since he left, and we appear to have the better end of that deal.

[Dante Lavelli]

We've sold well:

Duran
Luiz
Diaby - not sure here but hasn't signed for real madrid or owt.
Ramsey has been most injured too

The only boat we definitely missed was Bailey. 

[AV82EC]

We've sold well:

Duran
Luiz
Diaby - not sure here but hasn't signed for real madrid or owt.
Ramsey has been most injured too

The only boat we definitely missed was Bailey.

Yep should have been a sacrifice the summer before or the January.

[Somniloquism]

I think it is fair to say Monchi had lost his midas touch.  More worrying was the admin errors with Malen last summer, and potentially Elliot this year, suggesting he wasn't as in synch as he should be.

However...

Emery is running at a transfer surplus since he joined - and Monchi was there for most of it - so he deserves credit too.

That was mostly on Duran which supposedly wasn't his initial purchase but had mostly been agreed before he joined, although he managed to get the Saudi's interested with the sale. Then surprisingly getting Philogene sold twice.

[dcdavecollett]

Archer was sold twice as well.

[paul_e]

Mostly on Duran is a but unfair there, we've made about £300m in transfer sales since Monchi came in and Duran is about 22% of that.

Generally he sold really well. Buying is different but I think it is worth noting that a lot of his signings were younger players who we'd expect to see improve over the next few years so it feels a little early to make any real assessment on them.

[PeterWithesShin]

Yep he sold well, even the sales folks weren't happy with haven't overly bitten us, at least with fees. I'm thinking Doug who's done smeg all since leaving as an example.