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Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #540 on: October 12, 2023, 09:45:23 PM »
Footy it feels like you have come back just to agitate about Tielemans

Agitation, agitation, agitation, that's what you need,
If you wanna be a pest, and irritate the rest,
Agitation's what you need......if you wanna be a bullshit gossip breaker, yeaahhh!


No, Rambo B, you're being picky and selective on what I have posted upon return. It's a confirmation bias to further be against me

Indeed, I wrote  about Tielemans situation after hearing news via Football Insiders and reported by BBC gossips

However, I have also emphasised the fixtures during the international period and the villa players engaged.
On the relevant Diaby thread, I expressed my delight in Diaby and I find him a joy.
On Watkins' thread, we discussed how effective he is with goals and assists.
I also have expressed disappointment with Zaniolo, preferring Philogene Bidace to have been retained as an attacking option instead of the Italian.
I think you need to play fair. 

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #541 on: October 12, 2023, 09:51:32 PM »
And again stating "news" and "football insider" in the same sentence.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #542 on: October 21, 2023, 02:23:27 AM »
Apparently an interview coming out in the Times where Tielemans dismisses any kind of rift with the manager or club.

Youri Tielemans: “I have seen suggestions that I have fallen out with the manager. I get sent all of that, I see all of that & I laugh because it’s nonsense. The manager has been really supportive since the start & we’ve got a really good professional relationship so sometimes I really have to bite my tongue..”

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #543 on: October 21, 2023, 07:18:17 AM »
And again stating "news" and "football insider" in the same sentence.
Tiresome isn’t it, but that’s what Trolls do.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #544 on: October 21, 2023, 07:49:16 AM »
Here it is

When it became apparent that Youri Tielemans would not be signing a new contract with Leicester City and would be available on a free transfer there was interest from all over the Premier League and Europe.
The Belgium midfielder had consistently been one of Leicester’s best players during his four years at the club so when Aston Villa won the race to sign him last June it was considered to be one of the coups of the summer.
But fast forward four months and it has not been the fairytale beginning the 26-year-old had been hoping for. He is yet to make a Premier League start after eight games of the new season.

That was not, Tielemans said, the proposal that was sold to him by Unai Emery, the Villa head coach, when he agreed to join the club, so he is understandably disappointed. He described the situation as “unpleasant” while away with his country last month but insisted that the rest of his answer was lost in translation and that he is fighting to prove a point at Villa Park.

“Obviously when you sign for a club you want to show yourself. I’m very competitive, I want to start every game and play every minute of every game, and maybe people don’t understand that but I’m that type of guy,” Tielemans says. “I’m very demanding of myself and I know when I do something wrong or when I don’t play well.
“It’s a challenge at the moment not to be starting and not to be playing every minute of every game, and not to be able to help the team as much as I want to. Maybe it came out a bit rudely because of the mistranslation.”
There was no miscommunication as Tielemans explained his difficulties at the club before Villa’s home game against West Ham on Sunday. He admitted that there is disappointment over the lack of playing time but he appeared happy and relaxed as he spoke about enjoying his time at the club. He was also defiant when discussing his challenge to break into the starting XI.

He accepts that this particular task will be a difficult one after Villa’s start to the season. They presently sit fifth in the Premier League, four points off the top, having continued the strong form at the end of last season that earned them a place in the Europa Conference League. And he admits it is taking him time to adjust to his manager’s demands.

“Since the start he [Emery] told me that it’s a process because it’s a different playing style than what I’m used to, especially from last season and the season before,” he explains. “His plan is very clear with the midfielders coming inside and keeping the ball even more so than what I was used to. For him, it’s a totally normal process. He’s not worried at all and he makes me feel like a very important player even though I’m not starting every game. He’s very supportive and helps every player.”

At Leicester, aside from when his form dropped off towards the end of the last campaign, Tielemans was consistently one of the first names on the teamsheet. He was a vital player for Leicester under Brendan Rodgers, with his winner in the 2021 FA Cup final against Chelsea earning him legendary status at the club.
So while Emery may believe his journey at Villa so far is a “normal process”, Tielemans has had to get used to life as a squad player who must try to make an impact off the bench or in midweek European matches.

“It’s a different challenge but I felt like I earned my place at Leicester and that’s what I need to do here. Maybe it takes more time than it took at Leicester but I’ll take that time,” he says. “I’m working really hard and I’m becoming a better player and whenever I get to start showing that [then] I’m sure everyone will be really happy.”
There has not yet been much evidence that Tielemans has improved from the performance level that established him as one of the best midfielders in the Premier League with his displays in Leicester blue. But because of Emery’s intense tutelage, he believes that is the case.

“My technical understanding of the game has definitely improved and at the moment I’m happy because I know I’m progressing well. I feel like I am a better player than I was before joining and I’m just working really hard to get better and better,” he says. “I know I’m progressing well into the system. I know I’m not up there yet with regards to my level because I know I can do much, much better than what I have shown, but with a couple of games in my legs I will get better and better.”

He says he enjoys a strong relationship with his head coach, contrary to reports that the pair do not get along. “I have seen suggestions that I have fallen out with the manager. I get sent all of that, I see all of that and I laugh because it’s nonsense,” he says. “The manager has been really supportive since the start and we’ve got a really good professional relationship so sometimes I really have to bite my tongue.

“People don’t know me; they might get a view of me from a couple of videos they see online and whatever. It doesn’t really bother me [what people say]. But when I see that my family gets questions or if fans hear it and are frustrated, that bothers me because I feel like there’s a negative image of me out there even though I’ve not done anything. I don’t want there to be a negative mood around me because I’m a really positive guy, always laughing, always being happy and that’s who I am. I always try to be positive with my football.”

Positivity becomes more difficult when you are not being given the chance to make an impact on games, but Tielemans dismisses suggestions that he wants to leave in January as “nonsense” and says he has no concerns that a lack of game time could impact his place in Belgium’s Euro 2024 squad next summer.

He has just returned from another international camp, which involved Belgium’s Euro 2024 qualifier against Sweden in Brussels being abandoned at half-time after two football fans were killed in the city centre in a terrorist attack before kick-off. “The fact that it happened before the game, it was surprising it even went ahead, to be honest,” Tielemans says. “Everyone was in the unknown and the game was just going on.

“We didn’t know what had happened until half-time. Even the manager had done his team talk and we were trying to get ready to come out again. It was scary because I had some family inside the stadium and there were some rumours that there were people inside the stadium as well.”

Tielemans was given a rare start this season in that game and is feeling comfortable with his place within the national set-up under head coach Domenico Tedesco. “He knows what my situation is and knows the manager [Emery] is really good because they’ve met before and he likes his playing style,” Tielemans says.
“He’s been looking at my games and he’s not worried because I have the experience and I’m ready, I’m training every session, I’m fit and for him it’s a hopefully that will be soon.”

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #545 on: October 21, 2023, 07:57:25 AM »
Fair play, thats a good interview.
He hasn’t pulled up any trees by any stretch, but Ive felt in a couple of games the crowd getting a bit over frustrated with him. I don’t think he’s lazy, I think if anything he’s trying too hard. I definitely think some of the lack of patience stem in part from that first interview, so hopefully enough will read that far more positive one.
Thanks for posting.

Offline Villatillidie25

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #546 on: October 21, 2023, 08:31:47 AM »
Excellent interview. I really want him to succeed. Unfortunately for him he’s probably vying agains one of our best players in Luiz

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #547 on: October 21, 2023, 08:44:40 AM »
Spot on sounds like a good attitude to me.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #548 on: October 21, 2023, 08:57:15 AM »
If it wasn't for that interview (misquoted or otherwise) he'd be looked upon as "not quite settled yet", but it made him a target and put him under pressure. His mistakes and misgivings were then amplified.

He does look like he's trying too hard but he'll be OK long term I think, we have a Manager who will get the best out of him.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #549 on: October 21, 2023, 09:23:06 AM »
Shite like Football Insider publish made-up nonsense without any accountability, consequently the crowds turn, the players job is now that much harder. It’s a shit sandwich for all involved, including the fans.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #550 on: October 21, 2023, 09:50:18 AM »
The simple answer being stop reading, publishing and linking to Football Insider articles.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #551 on: October 21, 2023, 10:00:37 AM »
The simple answer being stop reading, publishing and linking to Football Insider articles.

People believe it though sadly.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #552 on: October 21, 2023, 10:01:50 AM »
The simple answer being stop reading, publishing and linking to Football Insider articles.

People believe it though sadly.

People are idiots.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #553 on: October 21, 2023, 10:33:44 AM »
The bit about taking time to get used to Emery's style is a bit surprising. I mean, it's not like Unai is Pep Guardiola and literally coaching every ounce of personal creativity out of him.

Also, Emery had an almost immediate impact on performances when he came in.  If it took that long to get used to "football" surely the other players would have taken time to adjust, too?

I think it's simply a case of him not earning a place in the side yet.  In part because the players in his position have been performing really well, and secondly he's not set the world alight when he's actually played.  He will get chances before Christmas, through suspensions or injuries, and who knows, with a run of games he might find himself one of our better players by the end of the season.  His talent isn't in question, we've just yet to really see it in a Villa shirt.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #554 on: October 21, 2023, 10:53:22 AM »
I dunno, a lot of people on here maintained that Tielemans spent the last season at Leicester not playing football, and that it would take him a while to basically undo that mindset and then another while to get up to speed with how we play.

Now that the player has basically said something similar-ish himself, it doesn't seem like that much of a stretch. I would question just how long we can wait for him to actually get up to speed though.

 


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