Youri Tielemans

[Toronto Villa]

They believed their own hype. They should have had more than enough to make a real go at the international honours and have regularly shit the bed. That era is now coming to a close and the attitude that led to them not maximizing their talent is surfacing at the tail end of their domestic careers.

[olaftab]

Last season a few players seemed to take a while to adapt to how Emery wants us to play. I am hoping that explains his indifferent form so far. I agree with Ads in that he has shown more when he’s come on compared to his starts.

Maybe  he will learn Emery style however that will not rectify his total incompetence like the assist for DCL last night.

[Risso]

A 26 year old Belgian international with 4 years and nearly 150 games in the Premier League should have hit the ground running a lot more quickly than he has done. I get that Emery has mostly gone with his first choice pairing of Kamara and Luiz, but that should make Tielemans more determined to come in and make himself undroppable when he gets a chance. It's so disappointing, he's been absolute shite.

[Clark W Griswold]

He should have hit the ground running full stop, i think we had him well before pre -season training started. Not going to fully write him off yet, but my gut feeling is things are more likely to get worse rather than better and that's partly based on last season at Leicester.

[Smithy]

A 26 year old Belgian international with 4 years and nearly 150 games in the Premier League should have hit the ground running a lot more quickly than he has done. I get that Emery has mostly gone with his first choice pairing of Kamara and Luiz, but that should make Tielemans more determined to come in and make himself undroppable when he gets a chance. It's so disappointing, he's been absolute shite.

This is where I am. I thought his signing was a brilliant move by the club.  Premier League experience, a proven trophy winner in England, a full international for a top side, still only 26, and free.  It literally seemed like an almost zero-risk transfer.

I am clinging to the hope that he's still adapting to Emery's way of doing things, and that he will come good in the end, because right now, I don't see him coming close to dislodging any of our current midfielders, and he hasn't even had JJ ahead of him in the pecking order yet.

[Risso]

He's just not even doing the basics expected of any Premier League footballer, and that's running around a bit and looking bothered. The actual passing bit of Emery's game plan should be second nature to him.

[LeeB]

He's just not even doing the basics expected of any Premier League footballer, and that's running around a bit and looking bothered. The actual passing bit of Emery's game plan should be second nature to him.

Yeah, it's not "Oh God, he can't trap a ball" it's "Oh God, he's a lazy gormless twat"

[Paul.S]

I’ve not written him off yet but I’m surprised what he’s shown so far. When you’re struggling you tend to look slow and laboured so I hope this is what it is.
If not he won’t last past January and won’t get another game. It’s all on him to show what he can do and he’s had 3 starts so far.

[eamonn]

He's just not even doing the basics expected of any Premier League footballer, and that's running around a bit and looking bothered. The actual passing bit of Emery's game plan should be second nature to him.

Yeah, it's not "Oh God, he can't trap a ball" it's "Oh God, he's a lazy gormless twat"

Which makes it a funny one. You can't teach ability, which he clearly has. You can change an attitude but it depends on the person/player's humility and motivation.

[frank black]

Another “There’s a player in there somewhere” type it seems.

If he can get back to his best, he will be an asset. Big if though

[RamboandBruno]

He wasnt just slow physically last night, he seemed slow of mind too. There two or three occassions when he had a lot of space and time but bybtime he thought about it, the Everton players  had closed him down and brushed him off the ball.

He might be lacking confidence, like most things you tend have a feel for how things are panning out 10-12 games in, so we’ll see I guess.

[Villa in Denmark]

Sold for £5M in July next year to Spanish or French league. Still it will look good on FFP.

[brontebilly]

He has reminded me of Steven Ireland so far with the attitude to match. Still the odd touch of class when given acres of time and space, like against Palace or even last night it was his pass that put Diaby through. But the basics of being able to physically compete at this level he is simply miles off. That's after a full pre season with us.

[ChicagoLion]

Another “There’s a player in there somewhere” type it seems.

If he can get back to his best, he will be an asset. Big if though

same was said about Tonev

[PaulWinch again]

Another “There’s a player in there somewhere” type it seems.

If he can get back to his best, he will be an asset. Big if though

same was said about Tonev

It might not work out for Tielemans, although hopefully it will. But there is a whole load more basis as to why it is reasonable to think it’s different from Tonev.