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Offline Flamingo Lane

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Re: Villa 2 Tottenham 1 post-match thread
« Reply #300 on: May 16, 2023, 08:34:49 AM »
For all that it's banged on about Kane not winning a trophy at Spurs, despite him so richly deserving one, it tends to be overlooked that the closest he has got to winning one was when Spurs reached the Champions League final, can't remember the year, which Spurs would have had a much better chance of winning if they had selected Lucas Moura, who had scored a hat trick v Ajax in the semi-final, rather than Kane, who had very clearly not recovered from an ankle injury that had kept him out for some time prior to the final, and in the final was useless.
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Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Villa 2 Tottenham 1 post-match thread
« Reply #301 on: May 16, 2023, 08:40:04 AM »
For all that it's banged on about Kane not winning a trophy at Spurs, despite him so richly deserving one, it tends to be overlooked that the closest he has got to winning one was when Spurs reached the Champions League final, can't remember the year, which Spurs would have had a much better chance of winning if they had selected Lucas Moura, who had scored a hat trick v Ajax in the semi-final, rather than Kane, who had very clearly not recovered from an ankle injury that had kept him out for some time prior to the final, and in the final was useless.

And he also went on strike a few years ago to try and force a move from Spurs.

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Re: Villa 2 Tottenham 1 post-match thread
« Reply #302 on: May 16, 2023, 08:41:32 AM »
If my memory is serving me correctly today, Charlie Aitken has got more winners medals than Harry Kane, and Charlie played in some really shit Villa sides.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Villa 2 Tottenham 1 post-match thread
« Reply #303 on: May 16, 2023, 08:48:52 AM »
If my memory is serving me correctly today, Charlie Aitken has got more winners medals than Harry Kane, and Charlie played in some really shit Villa sides.

Kane did win Millwall’s young player of the year award once

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Re: Villa 2 Tottenham 1 post-match thread
« Reply #304 on: May 16, 2023, 09:09:33 AM »
Kane is no doubt a good player and finisher, but he's also a snide cheat too. Some would argue you need an edge to be truly top class I suppose. I'd rather have Sheringham but wouldn't say no to Kane if were linked.

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Re: Villa 2 Tottenham 1 post-match thread
« Reply #305 on: May 16, 2023, 09:49:35 AM »
The 'just look at the trophies' thing is just Super League brand-era bullshit. It's why Grealish left.

Djimi Traoré has a Champions League winners medal and Totti doesn't. There are clearly other ways to measure greatness. If Kane happened to play for Man City he would have had his medals, but would anyone seriously think more of him as a player?

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Villa 2 Tottenham 1 post-match thread
« Reply #306 on: May 16, 2023, 10:04:23 AM »
The 'just look at the trophies' thing is just Super League brand-era bullshit. It's why Grealish left.

I agree. Although I was paraphrasing Brian Clough, who said something very similar many decades ago. And lack of trophies is my default response to any Spurs fans who try to claim they’re a Super League contender

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Re: Villa 2 Tottenham 1 post-match thread
« Reply #307 on: May 16, 2023, 10:09:28 AM »
The 'just look at the trophies' thing is just Super League brand-era bullshit. It's why Grealish left.

I agree. Although I was paraphrasing Brian Clough, who said something very similar many decades ago. And lack of trophies is my default response to any Spurs fans who try to claim they’re a Super League contender

It is embarrassing that Spurs think they're valid members of some elite caste, but it does also prove that even there trophies aren't everything, as Spurs are in that group on vibes alone.

Clough was talking in happier times for competition, when someone like him could really make a difference. Bit different these days, sadly.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Villa 2 Tottenham 1 post-match thread
« Reply #308 on: May 16, 2023, 10:14:17 AM »
Was it Spurs fans who started the the famous - but very short lived - chant about Sheringham going to Man United and winning eff all?

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Re: Villa 2 Tottenham 1 post-match thread
« Reply #309 on: May 16, 2023, 10:21:41 AM »
Didn't Everton used to be part of the Big 5 before they decided 6 was sexier

Offline MexicanVillain

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Re: Villa 2 Tottenham 1 post-match thread
« Reply #310 on: May 16, 2023, 03:32:02 PM »
Kane is no doubt a good player and finisher, but he's also a snide cheat too. Some would argue you need an edge to be truly top class I suppose. I'd rather have Sheringham but wouldn't say no to Kane if were linked.

My thoughts exactly.

 


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