Kits 23/24

[eamonn]

Because it's round?

Look, I mean, I don't get the issues that people have here, but whatever you think the language on this thread is a little out of proportion. 'Shambles' etc. I can guarantee that nobody out there in the football world gives a damn about any of this - why don't we ask Everton fans what a 'shambles' looks like; indeed, why not ask ourselves a mere few years ago?

I get it if people don't like the kit, or the badge, or the consultancy process or whatever, but we risk sounding like unhinged comic book fans losing their minds because Iron Man's suit is the wrong shade of rust. 'Worst. Badge. Ever!'

Name another club, or indeed another globally recognised company who have made such a balls up of a rebranding and come out with such an amateurish attempt at justifying it?

There’s probably loads but having not taken much notice of Real Betis’ or Lyon’s kit launches or badge traumas we wouldn’t know and that’s the point.

Actually can't think of a single brand that hasn't, at some point, made a bit of a horlicks of things like this. Honestly, it's so minor, most outsiders won't even notice it. It's not exactly a New Coke level disaster is it? It's more like, I don't know, when they changed the London Olympics logo. A bit meh, a bit sloppy, but ultimately a truly forgettable episode.

A story just today about how Arsenal/Adidas fucked-up their new shirt:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65976423

While Spurs are getting plenty of mickey-taking online for their new effort being almost identical to last season's, with similar bollocks to ours on the wave-patterns: "...subtle all-over graphic design of different shapes, including circles, diagonal lines, and squares. The linework pattern is inspired by the vibrant music scene and streetwear of the Tottenham borough."

I went to view properties there last month to buy, the only one I could afford had a box outside the door for kids to return knives into.

[FatSam]

I think most people were happy with the two designs presented. That may not be the case next time around, or if it's decided for us.

It’s interesting isn’t it, because that wasn’t my impression at all. I was completely underwhelmed by the two options that were presented.

The latter may explain the former.

The fact that I was underwhelmed would explain my impression that most people weren’t happy with the two designs presented? I don’t think so. I seem to remember a lot of people thinking that the gas lamp wasn’t really a serious option, so that the round badge would be chosen by default.

[Brazilian Villain]

I think most people were happy with the two designs presented. That may not be the case next time around, or if it's decided for us.

It’s interesting isn’t it, because that wasn’t my impression at all. I was completely underwhelmed by the two options that were presented.

The latter may explain the former.

The fact that I was underwhelmed would explain my impression that most people weren’t happy with the two designs presented? I don’t think so. I seem to remember a lot of people thinking that the gas lamp wasn’t really a serious option, so that the round badge would be chosen by default.

That's fine, you have a different opinion on the matter.

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

I know we lost in the FA Cup the only time we wore it, but this is still the best away/third kit, imho.  Now we're back to the old badge, it would be great to revive it or something similar.

[Brazilian Villain]

I know we lost in the FA Cup the only time we wore it, but this is still the best away/third kit, imho.  Now we're back to the old badge, it would be great to revive it or something similar.

Nay, nay and thrice nay. But then I hated the green, red and black Muller shirt which shows it's impossible to please everyone.

[pauliewalnuts]

I know we lost in the FA Cup the only time we wore it, but this is still the best away/third kit, imho.  Now we're back to the old badge, it would be great to revive it or something similar.

Nay, nay and thrice nay. But then I hated the green, red and black Muller shirt which shows it's impossible to please everyone.

I hated that too, I think it's the worst shirt we've ever had.

I can't believe so many people like it.

[tomd2103]

I know we lost in the FA Cup the only time we wore it, but this is still the best away/third kit, imho.  Now we're back to the old badge, it would be great to revive it or something similar.

Take the badge stamp thing off that and the shorts and it would have been one of our best away kits.  That badge stamp ruins it fir me.

[Pat McMahon]

I know we lost in the FA Cup the only time we wore it, but this is still the best away/third kit, imho.  Now we're back to the old badge, it would be great to revive it or something similar.

Nay, nay and thrice nay. But then I hated the green, red and black Muller shirt which shows it's impossible to please everyone.

I hated that too, I think it's the worst shirt we've ever had.

I can't believe so many people like it.

I’d like to add my considerable grumpiness to your opinion on that kit. Do we now have a quorum?

[Pete3206]

I know we lost in the FA Cup the only time we wore it, but this is still the best away/third kit, imho.  Now we're back to the old badge, it would be great to revive it or something similar.

We also wore this kit at Forest away in April 92. If I remember rightly, this was due to be the away kit for 92-93 but the players hated it. That's why the white away was retained for a 3rd successive season. (The shirt with the blue/black shoulder thingys). Officially, the yellow was listed as a 3rd kit but never used again. I think.

[Matt C]

Any debate about the kit aside, I’d wager some of the crest nonsense is a result of a (major) disparity in views between the outgoing regime and the new (commercial) one. 

[purpletrousers]

Saw club email on kit, thought Burnley.
Can get over it/will get used to it, even like it if we lift a trophy I imagine.
The badge thing was a surprise and feels embarrassing.

I can’t be the only person that avoided any possibility of a new wooly hat or something knowing the badge was changing, making sure I didn’t get something new for the kids that would instantly be out of date. I was certainly about to get a new cap. Now? No idea.
So to now not know what is going on, well it’s a season or two of minor merch sales loss I’d imagine.

I hope it will in the long run prove to be a brave decision.  A temporary shit show of two badges, but maybe if it’s somehow better commercially to go the plain Lion that it seemed would have been the modern evolution (if we must) then before re-doing the stadium, the mosaic better to get it right for decades to come.

Still a **** mess for those of us that had habituated/accepted and were ready to literally invest in what ‘we’ were lead to decide. How to explain to my 3yo the badge she decided won’t be there long term? She’ll not care, she’d enjoy voting again!
She was asking to go to a/if England games have a fun zone. Priorities!

[OzVilla]

I quite like the badge, its traditional and it's comforting to see something back from my youth for a change. As for the sponsors I really don't care tbh.

I do care though that the home shirt looks like a cheap knock off type you find at a flea market, despite the correct design of claret body and blue sleeves.  The collar, shoulder and that awful pattern, what were they thinking.

And I normally always like Villa shirts (though never buy one).

[Oklahoma]

For me, it ranks as one of the worst kits in recent memory.

Those shoulder panels/piping, the blue panel on the back (a la Wolves), the sponsor logos/colors are something Brentford would be proud of and the badge confusion completes the ensemble. What a mess.

Bin Castore ASAP!

[CT]

I know we lost in the FA Cup the only time we wore it, but this is still the best away/third kit, imho.  Now we're back to the old badge, it would be great to revive it or something similar.

We also wore this kit at Forest away in April 92. If I remember rightly, this was due to be the away kit for 92-93 but the players hated it. That's why the white away was retained for a 3rd successive season. (The shirt with the blue/black shoulder thingys). Officially, the yellow was listed as a 3rd kit but never used again. I think.

We wore it at Palace too. A drab 0-0 draw. Unforgettable.

[algy]

I know we lost in the FA Cup the only time we wore it, but this is still the best away/third kit, imho.  Now we're back to the old badge, it would be great to revive it or something similar.

My favourite away shirt too