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Offline Brazilian Villain

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #105 on: April 25, 2023, 10:49:31 AM »
Sorry but what is 1888?

Never ask that question in Glasgow.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #106 on: April 25, 2023, 10:54:37 AM »
The Witton will basically become the new North Stand when that is done up....excellent sightlines from upper Tier unless you're at the very back but will just feel very cramped and small compared to the other stands.

Given the road and houses it's going to be a long long time before there's any redevelopment if at all. Perhaps they'll reduce prices there once new North stand is up but I doubt it given what we've seen last few days.

I always wondered why Witton isn't 30 quid, don't the away fans pay that as part of the cap or was that rule scrapped a few years back?

That's one example of where mass fan protest forced a rethink and got away tickets capped at 30 quid for a few years at least.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #107 on: April 25, 2023, 10:54:44 AM »
Sorry but what is 1888?

Something to do with the League formation I guess?
I thought your 1st answer was oK , I was trying to work out how much and what you get for this seating area?

I wasn't aware there was seating being reserved for it too, that makes it worse.
Don't mix this up with the debacle in the Holte end (although I wouldn't put it past them to have 'premium seating' as the next step.

This just looks like an extension of the premium seating in the Trinity, but I haven't seen any explanation from the club of what the 1888 'offer' is.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #108 on: April 25, 2023, 11:23:13 AM »
For the first time ever, looking at a future where it's clear they're going to try and bleed dry every last penny out of those can can actually get in, I might agree with Risso on this.

Not sure why moving to another site would equate with cheaper prices. If anything they’d want more to help recoup the costs.

Because at the moment the facilities in a lot of the ground are atrocious, and at the moment the only solution seems to be to charge extra (for a select few) for what should be standard for everybody, and then leave everybody else with a worse experience. It's all very well them comparing us to the other top clubs in terms of prices, but they're delivering a matchday experience way behind most of them. Man City, Spurs and Arsenal are light years ahead because they're not trying to squeeze slightly better service out of decades old, badly built stands.

But they charge a huge premium for it.

It’s all a moot point anyway, the redevelopment plans show that it’s not on the cards for the foreseeable future. I just think that the tilt away from football fans to customers is going too far.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #109 on: April 25, 2023, 11:33:07 AM »
A positive from my perspective is that i am classed as a Disabled Over 66 so my ST is now £397 i think it was but i also have a Personal Assistant
who until last season was free. Last season they changed criteria and i had to pay a full price Adult approx £690. When i went to pay for my renewals
last night the Personal Assistant was once again free so a saving of £797. So i'm currently a happy bunny.

Probably only until Anthony from Disability office rings me 'Paul mate sorry we've made a mistake'

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #110 on: April 25, 2023, 11:52:50 AM »
It’s all a moot point anyway, the redevelopment plans show that it’s not on the cards for the foreseeable future. I just think that the tilt away from football fans to customers is going too far.


I agree it's never going to happen, probably in our life times anyway. But staying put means they have to make the most out of what they have, and that's going to entail trying to extort as much money as possible from people using the existing creaking facilities. The North Stand will be good when finished, but we'll still be left with a truly dismal Witton, a 30+ year old Holte and a 25 year old Trinity, all done as cheaply as possible in the Ellis era, with nothing much else around the area in terms of alternatives. Yes the London clubs charge a premium, but then they're at least getting a decent matchday experience. A lot of our fans will be paying much higher prices for still what is a very poor product in terms of the stadium visit.

Offline spartacuss

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #111 on: April 25, 2023, 12:20:37 PM »
After dutifully responding to the email to renew my ST, I got as far as the pre-chackout to be told that our 2 seats of 20+ years have been taken??
When I refreshed the page the following message came up:

'Error: A potentially dangerous Request detected in one of the fields. Please correct the offensive value and try again.'

Reading this, I felt as though I had abseiled down the Trinity stand holding a suspicious package!

How to win friends and influence people... Still no stadium-wide guide to ticket prices on the official site - unless someone knows/can advise where to find?

Where do you sit?  Are you in the new 1888 area (B3, b4 and a bit of B5)?




B5 Row 25... does this mean we're being evicted?   They're both concessionary tickets (old farts, out to graze, but have spent an eye-watering amount following Villa for 60-odd years))
No idea whether there are any alternatives on offer - no general price guide on view. Shabby, in my opinion.
I honestly don't know if your seat falls in that area, but I saw someone on Twitter say their £752 ticket is now £899 due to being swallowed by the 1888 seating.  Whether there is concessions in that area could also be an issue for you I guess.

edit - looking at a seating plan I'd say there's a chance is 1888.  I'd get onto the ticket office if I was you.

Contacted the ticket office (45 minute wait unsurprisingly) and the - very helpful - woman resolved it. It seems that we've just dodged a bullet: the people 5 seats to our right are 'in the zone' (1888 - but the prices aren't in a time warp...) and being 'prawn sandwiched' into the football future.
Our (concessionary) seats are now £649 from £490 last year.  As there's precious little chance of me being Sunaked into maths, can't calculate exactly, but I think that's a lot more than 15%.  Thanks for your advice, Chris.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #112 on: April 25, 2023, 12:24:02 PM »
I remain convinced that we should have identified a site somewhere else and just knocked the whole bloody thing down and started again.

Noooooo, Burn the Heretic!

*Please not another 'Should we move?' debate as it's been done to death on here, and thankfully it's not going to happen. 
Listen to him first, do as he says and then burn for his own sake.

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #113 on: April 25, 2023, 12:24:19 PM »

Apart from being absolutely pig sick at this new rise (my seat will be £779 in L5) after last seasons whopping 18% one, can anyone tell me what's happened to the student discount option? I can't find it

The nephews gone from needing an U21 ST, to being a full time student this year and surely they're not expecting students to pay full adult price right?

Sad to say it, but i'm ashamed of the club right now.

No excuses. It's an absolute disgrace.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #114 on: April 25, 2023, 12:31:07 PM »

Apart from being absolutely pig sick at this new rise (my seat will be £779 in L5) after last seasons whopping 18% one, can anyone tell me what's happened to the student discount option? I can't find it

The nephews gone from needing an U21 ST, to being a full time student this year and surely they're not expecting students to pay full adult price right?

Sad to say it, but i'm ashamed of the club right now.

No excuses. It's an absolute disgrace.
Similarly my nephew clicks over 21 before 1/19/23 (the trigger date)  so I will have to pay £639 for him. This season it was £269. Ouch! And even if were U21 £269 goes up to £410.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #115 on: April 25, 2023, 12:34:23 PM »
It’s all a moot point anyway, the redevelopment plans show that it’s not on the cards for the foreseeable future. I just think that the tilt away from football fans to customers is going too far.


I agree it's never going to happen, probably in our life times anyway. But staying put means they have to make the most out of what they have, and that's going to entail trying to extort as much money as possible from people using the existing creaking facilities. The North Stand will be good when finished, but we'll still be left with a truly dismal Witton, a 30+ year old Holte and a 25 year old Trinity, all done as cheaply as possible in the Ellis era, with nothing much else around the area in terms of alternatives. Yes the London clubs charge a premium, but then they're at least getting a decent matchday experience. A lot of our fans will be paying much higher prices for still what is a very poor product in terms of the stadium visit.

The Holte is fine from my point of view but then for me ‘match day experience’ means seeing a good game of football.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #116 on: April 25, 2023, 12:39:18 PM »
It’s all a moot point anyway, the redevelopment plans show that it’s not on the cards for the foreseeable future. I just think that the tilt away from football fans to customers is going too far.


I agree it's never going to happen, probably in our life times anyway. But staying put means they have to make the most out of what they have, and that's going to entail trying to extort as much money as possible from people using the existing creaking facilities. The North Stand will be good when finished, but we'll still be left with a truly dismal Witton, a 30+ year old Holte and a 25 year old Trinity, all done as cheaply as possible in the Ellis era, with nothing much else around the area in terms of alternatives. Yes the London clubs charge a premium, but then they're at least getting a decent matchday experience. A lot of our fans will be paying much higher prices for still what is a very poor product in terms of the stadium visit.

Ask any Spurs fans at the moment if the "matchday experience" makes up for getting absolutely humped by the likes of Newcastle whilst paying comfortably the most expensive ticket prices in the league (https://www.statista.com/statistics/328654/premier-league-teams-ranked-by-most-expensive-season-ticket-price/).

I don't care how nice the concourse is (and it is very nice at the new WHL), it doesn't justify paying 3x what it costs to watch the Villa.

And yes, a 15% increase is a pisstake, but unfortunately football operates in a competitive vacuum, so just like no top-flight professional footballer "earns" the amount he's paid, if you want to compete, you have to pay the going rate.  That's exactly where we are with ticket prices and when there's allegedly 30,000 on a waiting list and every game is sold out, you can't really blame the club when they know that the more money they can bring in, the better quality players we can sign.

They're damned if they do and damned if they don't - keep ticket prices low, have less money than our competitors, buy shitter players - they get panned.  Do what they're doing to support the best manager we've had in decades - they get panned.  There's no easy answer unfortunately - it's just a massive shame for long-serving fans who end up having to give up going because it's just not affordable anymore.

Offline levico

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #117 on: April 25, 2023, 12:40:14 PM »
As usual the process to renew is proving problematic. The online/digital account system doesn’t work for me and I’ve been hanging on the phone for over an hour now.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #118 on: April 25, 2023, 12:58:25 PM »
Ask any Spurs fans at the moment if the "matchday experience" makes up for getting absolutely humped by the likes of Newcastle whilst paying comfortably the most expensive ticket prices in the league (https://www.statista.com/statistics/328654/premier-league-teams-ranked-by-most-expensive-season-ticket-price/).

I don't care how nice the concourse is (and it is very nice at the new WHL), it doesn't justify paying 3x what it costs to watch the Villa.

And yes, a 15% increase is a pisstake, but unfortunately football operates in a competitive vacuum, so just like no top-flight professional footballer "earns" the amount he's paid, if you want to compete, you have to pay the going rate.  That's exactly where we are with ticket prices and when there's allegedly 30,000 on a waiting list and every game is sold out, you can't really blame the club when they know that the more money they can bring in, the better quality players we can sign.

They're damned if they do and damned if they don't - keep ticket prices low, have less money than our competitors, buy shitter players - they get panned.  Do what they're doing to support the best manager we've had in decades - they get panned.  There's no easy answer unfortunately - it's just a massive shame for long-serving fans who end up having to give up going because it's just not affordable anymore.

Nobody has ever said that having decent facilities should be instead of having a good team to watch, or that one makes up for not having the other.

That season ticket price you've quoted is their most expensive 1882 Club ticket, and includes free food and drink, so you're not really comparing like with like. Obviously most of their tickets are more expensive than ours, but then they're in London in a new billion pound stadium, so you'd expect them to be. A quick fag packet calculation shows the average adult season ticket there is about £1,050ish, or about £55 a game. Even given their recent troubles, they're still 5th and have finished lower than 6th once in the last 14 years so they're mostly used to decent results watched in an excellent stadium.

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Re: Season Tickets - 2023/24
« Reply #119 on: April 25, 2023, 01:01:05 PM »
After dutifully responding to the email to renew my ST, I got as far as the pre-chackout to be told that our 2 seats of 20+ years have been taken??
When I refreshed the page the following message came up:

'Error: A potentially dangerous Request detected in one of the fields. Please correct the offensive value and try again.'

Reading this, I felt as though I had abseiled down the Trinity stand holding a suspicious package!

How to win friends and influence people... Still no stadium-wide guide to ticket prices on the official site - unless someone knows/can advise where to find?

Where do you sit?  Are you in the new 1888 area (B3, b4 and a bit of B5)?




Not a season ticket query. But can anyone explain to me why A3 is cheaper than A5.

 


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