West Ham London - 1 Aston Villa - 1 The Post Match Thread.

[Stu]

Is the West Hammer Irons Soccer Team from London?

[Astnor]

Without the stupid pen we would have had a nice 1-0 away win. Can see the beginnings of a possible really good and enjoyable team, individual players seems to been improved under Emery as well but some of them might not have enough to be what need to be at next level.

[Villan82]

Finally, the interesting thing for me is three players that lots of us, including myself have said regularly need to be upgraded, McGinn, Mings and Watkins and probably the three most improved players under Emery, actually coaching going on here.

Fair point. Good managers find a way to get a tune out of the existing panel. Shysters like Steven, DOL et al will always witter on about what they don't have.  Throw money at it. It's always about the next signing or five for them.

It’s incredible how he’s turned Ollie and McGinn around. Mings has always been good in my opinion, but saying that his distribution of the ball is much better. Dougie is having a great season as well.

It makes you wonder what Gerrard was doing? The game was up for me with the treatment and egotistical nonsense he used on Mings.

Not just Gerrard, some of our fans too. Absolutely laughable the way some were writing off Luiz as rubbish , and not that long ago either. Then it was Watkins, McGinn in the firing line and it's constantly Mings being criticised

Players will have dips in form, especially when playing for a novice manager out of his depth. Unai is the real deal and will take us forward

[astonvilla82]

2 poor games, Palace & West Ham. 4 point and no goals conceded from open play.

Not pretty, but sings of progress.

Watkins good. Moreno good but wasteful going forward. Buendia, Bailey and Ramsey far too quiet.

Getting a tune out of this squad

Music to my ears

[enigma]

Imagine being West Ham, shackled to Moyes and his MONish football.

It's got them into Europe the last couple of seasons including a semi final last season while we were battling relegation so I don't think we can be too sniffy.

[Rigadon]

Finally, the interesting thing for me is three players that lots of us, including myself have said regularly need to be upgraded, McGinn, Mings and Watkins and probably the three most improved players under Emery, actually coaching going on here.

Fair point. Good managers find a way to get a tune out of the existing panel. Shysters like Steven, DOL et al will always witter on about what they don't have.  Throw money at it. It's always about the next signing or five for them.

It’s incredible how he’s turned Ollie and McGinn around. Mings has always been good in my opinion, but saying that his distribution of the ball is much better. Dougie is having a great season as well.

It makes you wonder what Gerrard was doing? The game was up for me with the treatment and egotistical nonsense he used on Mings.

Not just Gerrard, some of our fans too. Absolutely laughable the way some were writing off Luiz as rubbish , and not that long ago either. Then it was Watkins, McGinn in the firing line and it's constantly Mings being criticised

Players will have dips in form, especially when playing for a novice manager out of his depth. Unai is the real deal and will take us forward

Emery is indeed the real deal.  Is it me, or do post these types of things every now and again about the fans being critical?!  If you're basing this critique on the match threads, honestly don't.  The match thread is generally people sat at home (often a bit pissed) using the internet as a proxy mate sat next to you in the stand.  People moan.

If folks were calling 'Emery out' etc four enough.  But fans moan.

[Ian.]

Imagine being West Ham, shackled to Moyes and his MONish football.

It's got them into Europe the last couple of seasons including a semi final last season while we were battling relegation so I don't think we can be too sniffy.

Still those Hammers fans I know have never liked him. Even that season they had Lingard and looked like they were flying they still winged about Moyes.

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

Pleased with the draw. Great to see Ollie scoring again! A proper manager like Unai would always know what to do to get the best out of the current squad! His task will be to upgrade and take us to the next level and I have every confidence that he will do so. UTV!

[Behind Bluenose Lines]

We wuz robbed. At least we didn't end up snatching defeat from the jaws of a draw like we did against the last London team we played...

Love Ollie. Hope Spurs don't start sniffing round him this summer if Harry Kane (allegedly) goes to Manure.

[PeterWithesShin]

As we know from the MON years, when nearly everything goes well that system and style can bring some level of success, but will always have a ceiling as it's so limited. When it isn't working you're left with the situation West Ham are in this season.

[Brazilian Villain]

Can see the improvement of McGinnis over the last few weeks, need to spend more time in Dublin, not trying any silly balls across the pitch

I wonder how long he'll be with us now that Strathclyde Sirens have come in with a big offer.

[Percy McCarthy]

Kamara, Carlos and Coutinho - that’s  three pretty big players missing. Put those three in and it creates a massive upgrade on the bench.

Still think McGinn needs upgrading with Guendouzi, Ramsey needs to improve but has plenty of time, and I would like to see middle Ramsey, Tim and Cam fully integrated into the squad next season.

Fair play to Bailey for still trying. I think if I was him I’d have resigned myself to thinking this league is not for me.

[enigma]

Imagine being West Ham, shackled to Moyes and his MONish football.

It's got them into Europe the last couple of seasons including a semi final last season while we were battling relegation so I don't think we can be too sniffy.

Still those Hammers fans I know have never liked him. Even that season they had Lingard and looked like they were flying they still winged about Moyes.

Well they're getting what they deserve now then.

[The Edge]

Finally, the interesting thing for me is three players that lots of us, including myself have said regularly need to be upgraded, McGinn, Mings and Watkins and probably the three most improved players under Emery, actually coaching going on here.

Fair point. Good managers find a way to get a tune out of the existing panel. Shysters like Steven, DOL et al will always witter on about what they don't have.  Throw money at it. It's always about the next signing or five for them.

It’s incredible how he’s turned Ollie and McGinn around. Mings has always been good in my opinion, but saying that his distribution of the ball is much better. Dougie is having a great season as well.

It makes you wonder what Gerrard was doing? The game was up for me with the treatment and egotistical nonsense he used on Mings.

Not just Gerrard, some of our fans too. Absolutely laughable the way some were writing off Luiz as rubbish , and not that long ago either. Then it was Watkins, McGinn in the firing line and it's constantly Mings being criticised

Players will have dips in form, especially when playing for a novice manager out of his depth. Unai is the real deal and will take us forward

Emery is indeed the real deal.  Is it me, or do post these types of things every now and again about the fans being critical?!  If you're basing this critique on the match threads, honestly don't.  The match thread is generally people sat at home (often a bit pissed) using the internet as a proxy mate sat next to you in the stand.  People moan.

If folks were calling 'Emery out' etc four enough.  But fans moan.

Spot on. I used to get really pissed off on here on the matchday thread then i figured out it's just fans venting their spleen on the best place available. I tend to take a step back until about an hour after the whistle.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Kamara, Carlos and Coutinho - that’s  three pretty big players missing. Put those three in and it creates a massive upgrade on the bench.

Still think McGinn needs upgrading with Guendouzi, Ramsey needs to improve but has plenty of time, and I would like to see middle Ramsey, Tim and Cam fully integrated into the squad next season.

Fair play to Bailey for still trying. I think if I was him I’d have resigned myself to thinking this league is not for me.

I couldn't stop thinking throughout the game how much Coutinho would have been prefect for us today, he'd have loved being up against Rice and Soucek who are a shadow of the partnership that spanked us last year. Rice seems to have one eye on his summer move and Soucek doesn't seem to care. Such a waste but as we know, that's what happens in relegation seasons.