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Author Topic: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022  (Read 31570 times)

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #225 on: March 07, 2023, 02:08:59 PM »
Yeah I think that's true. The summer's going to be very interesting.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #226 on: March 07, 2023, 02:11:10 PM »
Realistically who out of Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arse, Tottingham and Newcastle will we finish ahead of over 38 matches? One of them having a bad season like Chelsea possibly Newcastle yes but that's 6th at best.

I think Spurs are catchable. Their recruitment has been pretty poor in recent times. Once Harry leaves/winds-down, they'll be in trouble.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #227 on: March 07, 2023, 02:22:19 PM »
Spurs are very catchable. We just need to do what they do, which is make sure to beat all the sides at the lower end of the table. It's where they make the overwhelming majority of their points. I did a count up a while back when they were sitting very pretty in the table with 33 points from about 19 or 20 games, I think it was. 25 of those points had come from 8 wins and a draw in games against the bottom 9. They'd beaten Fulham and Brighton, and managed 2 points from the rest of the top 11.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #228 on: March 07, 2023, 02:26:27 PM »
if we are going to compete with the likes of Spurs we need to expand the ground to increase matchday income, this may take a few years to come through.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #229 on: March 07, 2023, 02:30:34 PM »
Realistically who out of Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arse, Tottingham and Newcastle will we finish ahead of over 38 matches? One of them having a bad season like Chelsea possibly Newcastle yes but that's 6th at best.

6th at best - for a club that hasn't finished in the top half for 12 years - is very good indeed.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #230 on: March 07, 2023, 02:33:40 PM »
In and around the top six and a cup or two. You can do it Unai.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #231 on: March 07, 2023, 02:57:29 PM »
Realistically who out of Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arse, Tottingham and Newcastle will we finish ahead of over 38 matches? One of them having a bad season like Chelsea possibly Newcastle yes but that's 6th at best.

I think Spurs are catchable. Their recruitment has been pretty poor in recent times. Once Harry leaves/winds-down, they'll be in trouble.

Do Newcastle really belong on that list? They’ve won 1 game in the league this year. I think they over achieved earlier in the season but it’s started to catch up with them.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #232 on: March 07, 2023, 02:59:26 PM »
Seeing those recent financial figures shows us what we’re up against. It’s stark indeed. We can’t afford to get it wrong with player trading at all almost to progress or even stand still. The super league 6 can afford multiple mistakes. It looks a big ask to get everything on the money and then the team have a good season. I think we have got better from where we use to be on the ins and outs front but it was a very low base indeed. Do we have to recalibrate our expectations?

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #233 on: March 07, 2023, 03:06:50 PM »
Risso, you do rate Emery higher than Gerrard, right?!

Of course I do, but my point all along has been that this squad isn't good enough for anything other than midtable. Emery is clearly a much better coach than Gerrard, but we're already seeing the same old maddening inconsistencies, week in, week out. Even if Emery gets say, 20% more out of all them, that's still not going to be enough. I think by the end of the season we'll still be 11th at best. We haven't put together two good halves of football since Man U in Emery's first game.

We are 4th or 5th in the form table since he came in, so there's every opportunity to finish higher than 11th.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #234 on: March 07, 2023, 03:11:40 PM »
Realistically who out of Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arse, Tottingham and Newcastle will we finish ahead of over 38 matches? One of them having a bad season like Chelsea possibly Newcastle yes but that's 6th at best.

6th at best - for a club that hasn't finished in the top half for 12 years - is very good indeed.

Yep, and almost certainly Europe, and therefore more income, which gives us the shot.... I'd also argue that because we're building it sustainably rather than a boom or bust model, we're more likely to continue.

We're heading the right way. These owners are improving pretty much everything year on year (except for the shit service in the stands and even that seems to be better in the last few weeks) and there're absolutely no reason to think it won't continue.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #235 on: March 07, 2023, 03:17:21 PM »
Yeah I think that's true. The summer's going to be very interesting.
And, of course, Emery needs a pre-season and will need to push on in the following January window. ;-)

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #236 on: March 07, 2023, 03:33:57 PM »
Yeah I think that's true. The summer's going to be very interesting.
And, of course, Emery needs a pre-season and will need to push on in the following January window. ;-)

A full pre-season should see us very well prepared. I don't think he'll need anyone making excuses for him.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #237 on: March 07, 2023, 03:39:13 PM »
Realistically who out of Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arse, Tottenham and Newcastle will we finish ahead of over 38 matches? One of them having a bad season like Chelsea possibly Newcastle yes but that's 6th at best.

This is the point, we need to overhaul the also rans which every year will throw up 4 or 5 teams competing for the top half and then comes the real challenge  with the big boys.




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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #238 on: March 07, 2023, 03:58:23 PM »
Realistically who out of Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arse, Tottenham and Newcastle will we finish ahead of over 38 matches? One of them having a bad season like Chelsea possibly Newcastle yes but that's 6th at best.

This is the point, we need to overhaul the also rans which every year will throw up 4 or 5 teams competing for the top half and then comes the real challenge  with the big boys.

This is why, in the short term at least, the likes of Newcastle getting a big investment doesn't have to necessarily be a bad thing for us.  To have a chance of finishing in the top 4 it needs more teams who are capable of beating the same old candidates.  I think we are seeing this to an extent this season, with no-one outside of Man City or Arsenal seemingly nailed on for the top 4 this year.  If we can ensure we get much better at beating teams in the lower half then Europe will always be a possibility, and a good season could get you top 4.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #239 on: March 07, 2023, 04:14:52 PM »
Realistically who out of Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arse, Tottingham and Newcastle will we finish ahead of over 38 matches? One of them having a bad season like Chelsea possibly Newcastle yes but that's 6th at best.
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I think Spurs are catchable. Their recruitment has been pretty poor in recent times. Once Harry leaves/winds-down, they'll be in trouble.

Do Newcastle really belong on that list? They’ve won 1 game in the league this year. I think they over achieved earlier in the season but it’s started to catch up with them.
]I agree Chris I get a bit fed up about all the "bigging" up of Newcastle, the rules are set and that limits what you can do including us as we can see.

 


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