Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022

[Lastfootstamper]

We're like the opposite of a business on matchday. It's nigh-on impossible to give them any money.

[dave.woodhall]

Have a look at BHX on a weekend where Liverpool or Manchester United are at home and you'll see loads of Irish supporters who fly here because it's cheaper to come here then hire a car than it is to fly there direct. You don't get that for Manchester City.

In my last job, I worked on sports related projects with mobile networks and other large companies, all over Africa.

On the (endless, and always with at least 10 people from their side, which I think must be a cultural thing) calls we'd have with them, we'd pretty much always have chit-chat about football.

What was noticeable was that almost every single one of them had a Premier League team they supported.

I'd say 50% of them supported Liverpool, 30% Man United, 10% Arsenal and then a mish mash of other teams for the rest.

I never came across any of them supporting Man City, not a single one. Man City are a rich club for the rest of the world, not a big one.

There's a reason Liverpool are so keen on ending the collective sale and sharing of overseas revenue.

At a very rough estimate I'd say BHX in the summer is Liverpool, Villa, Manchester United, Wolves, Small Heath, Stripeys, Coventry. You never see Manchester City.

Matchday is Villa, Liverpool, Manchester United, Wolves and the rest are a rarity.

[Brazilian Villain]

The only Man City fans I know in Ireland live on the neighbouring farm. No Mancunian connection but the Dad has supported them since the mid-70s, one son is Citeh and the other Arsenal. In contrast it's not unusual to see a random Villa shirt even in the local village.

In Cayman there are more Bristol City fans than Man City, never mind the bigger teams. I've also worked with and know quite a few African lads there. Main thing I've noticed was that the Kenyans were mainly Man U with a smattering of Arsenal and pretty much all the Zimbabweans were big Chelsea fans. Age wise they're in the 35-45 range and I seem to recall them saying that Babayaro was a big factor in them choosing Chelsea. Again, no Man City fans as PW mentioned.

[pauliewalnuts]

Have a look at BHX on a weekend where Liverpool or Manchester United are at home and you'll see loads of Irish supporters who fly here because it's cheaper to come here then hire a car than it is to fly there direct. You don't get that for Manchester City.

In my last job, I worked on sports related projects with mobile networks and other large companies, all over Africa.

On the (endless, and always with at least 10 people from their side, which I think must be a cultural thing) calls we'd have with them, we'd pretty much always have chit-chat about football.

What was noticeable was that almost every single one of them had a Premier League team they supported.

I'd say 50% of them supported Liverpool, 30% Man United, 10% Arsenal and then a mish mash of other teams for the rest.

I never came across any of them supporting Man City, not a single one. Man City are a rich club for the rest of the world, not a big one.

There's a reason Liverpool are so keen on ending the collective sale and sharing of overseas revenue.

At a very rough estimate I'd say BHX in the summer is Liverpool, Villa, Manchester United, Wolves, Small Heath, Stripeys, Coventry. You never see Manchester City.

Matchday is Villa, Liverpool, Manchester United, Wolves and the rest are a rarity.

I always imagine us having tons of Irish fans coming across for our home games, but I suspect my world view is stuck in the 90s when there was more reason for them to do so.

[bob]

Imagine an accountant being creative, lol

[SaddVillan]

Looking at the accounts  one figure jumps out:

Turnover: £178.4m, compare it to:

Man City £571m
Liverpool £487m
Man Utd £494m
Chelsea £481m
Spurs £442m
Arsenal £367m

Bearing in mind that you can't spend what you don't earn, on a very simplistic basis, this means the "Big 6" had between two and three times to lay out on wages and transfers than we did.

Sonething to point out to the naysayers and moaners?

[pauliewalnuts]

Imagine an accountant being creative, lol

Risso is an accountant but also a published novelist and accomplished painter who has had a show at the V&A.

TRUFACT.

[bob]

Yeah when I pressed Post I did remember Risso doing a good post the other day. Exception that proves the rule.

[Risso]

Thankfully I haven't had to do any proper accountancy in about 15 years.

[bob]

There you go, case closed.

[dave.woodhall]

Have a look at BHX on a weekend where Liverpool or Manchester United are at home and you'll see loads of Irish supporters who fly here because it's cheaper to come here then hire a car than it is to fly there direct. You don't get that for Manchester City.

In my last job, I worked on sports related projects with mobile networks and other large companies, all over Africa.

On the (endless, and always with at least 10 people from their side, which I think must be a cultural thing) calls we'd have with them, we'd pretty much always have chit-chat about football.

What was noticeable was that almost every single one of them had a Premier League team they supported.

I'd say 50% of them supported Liverpool, 30% Man United, 10% Arsenal and then a mish mash of other teams for the rest.

I never came across any of them supporting Man City, not a single one. Man City are a rich club for the rest of the world, not a big one.

There's a reason Liverpool are so keen on ending the collective sale and sharing of overseas revenue.

At a very rough estimate I'd say BHX in the summer is Liverpool, Villa, Manchester United, Wolves, Small Heath, Stripeys, Coventry. You never see Manchester City.

Matchday is Villa, Liverpool, Manchester United, Wolves and the rest are a rarity.

I always imagine us having tons of Irish fans coming across for our home games, but I suspect my world view is stuck in the 90s when there was more reason for them to do so.

There's a few but nowhere near as many as there should be.

[Toronto Villa]

Back in the 90's we had three of more prominent members of the Irish national team in our ranks. Ireland hasn't been as strong as they were back then and the players they have produced or could qualify for them haven't been anything close to that level. That and we were much more relevant in top level football discussions. So naturally Irish fans growing up in the past 20 years have no connection to us. Liverpool, Man U, even Everton have had current Irish internationals or are just more fashionable. We've been mostly shit and our best Irish players in that time was Given, Dunne and Stephen Fucking Ireland. And a cameo by Robbie Keane.

[SoccerHQ]

Quite interested our wage bill remained stable.

Obviously Grealish would've been on 100k + comfortably by the time he left us but Ings would've been pushing for not far off that and Bailey and Buendia at 30m apiece would be on wages befitting those valuations 70-80k if not more.

Even Young coming back on a free would be commanding a decent amount given all he's won since he left us.

I presume in 12 months you'll see a substantial rise up past 150m given what we've signed under Gerrard.

[Hillbilly]

I always find myself looking at this thread each year and thinking how small football clubs are as businesses compared to their size in the public’s consciousness. It weirds me out a bit to be honest.

It wasn't many years ago that Villa's turnover was lower than Asda at One Stop.

Anything to do with having an owner who ran it like a small travel agency on a local high street?

[ChicagoLion]

Imagine an accountant being creative, lol

Risso is an accountant but also a published novelist and accomplished painter who has had a show at the V&A.

TRUFACT.

Impressive.