Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022

[Beard82]

I just dont see anyway Man City's income can be more than Liverpool or Man Utd legally.  Personally, I think my gut feel alone is enough to relegate them to the championship

[LeonW]

I saw some figures today that showed our turnover lower than that of the likes of Everton, Leicester, West Ham and .... fucking Wolves (last year's figures obvs).

Spurs more than 2.5x ours,

We've underperformed in this sense for years now, it needs to change. Commercial revenue is a big part of that.

In fact, here's the chart.



Also interesting to see that we're not turning over hugely more than the likes of Southampton and Brighton.

That's another part of being a 'big club' where we need to get our act together ASAP.

No way on earth Man Cities commerical revenue is bigger than Liverpool or Man City in real terms.

It’s probably the same ‘creative’ accountancy that they’ve demonstrated since their current owners came in.

[pauliewalnuts]

It's total income, but that graph doesn't strike me as accurate when it has Newcastle 17m behind Southampton.

It is from Keiran Maguire, who tends to know this stuff.

EDIT - I guess with different financial years, theirs might cover covid season.

[pauliewalnuts]

I saw some figures today that showed our turnover lower than that of the likes of Everton, Leicester, West Ham and .... fucking Wolves (last year's figures obvs).

Spurs more than 2.5x ours,

We've underperformed in this sense for years now, it needs to change. Commercial revenue is a big part of that.

In fact, here's the chart.



Also interesting to see that we're not turning over hugely more than the likes of Southampton and Brighton.

That's another part of being a 'big club' where we need to get our act together ASAP.

No way on earth Man Cities commerical revenue is bigger than Liverpool or Man City in real terms.

It’s probably the same ‘creative’ accountancy that they’ve demonstrated since their current owners came in.

It isn't creative accountancy - the money has to be there to be spent.

What is creative is some of the shit they indulge in like the Emptihad being by far the most expensive stadium naming rights ever. And the range of other AD companies as 'official toilet paper sponsor' or whatever.

[eamonn]

I saw some figures today that showed our turnover lower than that of the likes of Everton, Leicester, West Ham and .... fucking Wolves (last year's figures obvs).

Spurs more than 2.5x ours,

We've underperformed in this sense for years now, it needs to change. Commercial revenue is a big part of that.


Also interesting to see that we're not turning over hugely more than the likes of Southampton and Brighton.

That's another part of being a 'big club' where we need to get our act together ASAP.

I'm doing my bit. Just spent 75 quid on the Villa this afternoon on a sale Fanatics/Kitbag are having. Would be better for the club if I bought it all through the official store of course but I wouldn't have spent anything if the third-party retailer didn't have a sale on.

[LeonW]

I saw some figures today that showed our turnover lower than that of the likes of Everton, Leicester, West Ham and .... fucking Wolves (last year's figures obvs).

Spurs more than 2.5x ours,

We've underperformed in this sense for years now, it needs to change. Commercial revenue is a big part of that.

In fact, here's the chart.



Also interesting to see that we're not turning over hugely more than the likes of Southampton and Brighton.

That's another part of being a 'big club' where we need to get our act together ASAP.

No way on earth Man Cities commerical revenue is bigger than Liverpool or Man City in real terms.

It’s probably the same ‘creative’ accountancy that they’ve demonstrated since their current owners came in.

It isn't creative accountancy - the money has to be there to be spent.

What is creative is some of the shit they indulge in like the Emptihad being by far the most expensive stadium naming rights ever. And the range of other AD companies as 'official toilet paper sponsor' or whatever.

I would have thought halving Mancini’s annual yearly salary and saying the other half was for a day’s work at some satellite set up and thus not in scope in FFP for them is creative accountancy, no?

[aj2k77]

Wolves, Wolverhampton, capacity 11k lower than ours.
Leicester, capacity 10k lower than ours. There's no way there turnover is 20% higher than ours.

What seasons are these based on? I'd imagine both turnovers are being inflated by fakeish sponsorship deals etc by their owners to pump money in to the club.

[PeterWithesShin]

Depends what year it is. Leicester finished 5th, won the FA Cup and had Europe 2 years ago, that's a good chunk of prize and TV money over us, or last season they were 6 places above us and had a number of European games as they got to the SF of the ECL, so same again. So easy to believe they had a higher income than us those 2 seasons.

Wolves, less likely.

[paul_e]

That looks like it's for 20/21 seeing as the accounts for us this year mention turnover of £184m from the previous accounts, Leeds included as well.

[sid1964]

We had to sell our best player for £100 million to make a small profit

I read elsewhere that Tottenham made a £112 million profit, we just cannot compete with the top 4/6 sides.

[ChicagoLion]

I saw some figures today that showed our turnover lower than that of the likes of Everton, Leicester, West Ham and .... fucking Wolves (last year's figures obvs).

Spurs more than 2.5x ours,

We've underperformed in this sense for years now, it needs to change. Commercial revenue is a big part of that.

In fact, here's the chart.



Also interesting to see that we're not turning over hugely more than the likes of Southampton and Brighton.

That's another part of being a 'big club' where we need to get our act together ASAP.

No way on earth Man Cities commerical revenue is bigger than Liverpool or Man City in real terms.

It’s probably the same ‘creative’ accountancy that they’ve demonstrated since their current owners came in.

It’s not creative accountancy it’s signing up marketing deals with related parties, nothing creative about it at all.

[Walmley_Villa]

Having a relative working at City Football Group I can safely say they are 10 years ahead of us in commercial terms, they have a lot of investments and have developed themselves into a global brand attracting global sponsors. Their turnover is more than others because they are run like a business end of.

[Risso]

I was at the Etihad for our game recently, and everything they do is really slick and perfectly executed. As one small example, when the players arrive, the coach pulls up into a reserved area outside, with a load of music and blue smoke etc. They then walk down a blue carpet, signing autographs and high-fiving the kids. They then walk into a hospitality area called the tunnel club, where they walk through the fans and again pose for photos etc. Prices in there are obviously astronomical, but even though it's staged and corporate as hell, I have to say it's really impressive. Compare that to the recent thread on here, where the answer to when the coach arrives is "well, sometimes it's about 2 hours before, but the players all have massive headphones on and just slink into the ground."

When you can't even buy a drink at half time in most areas of Villa Park, you realise just how far behind the times we are. Hopefully the upgrade to the North Stand will help to get things slightly more up to date, but you're then still left with three stands with outdated facilities.

[Clampy]

To be fair, the players used to arrive in their own cars and stop for photos and autographs so I'm not sure which manager (Gérrard or Emery) made the change to bring them in via coach. It's a shame for the young un's like I said.

[Pat Mustard]

I was at the Etihad for our game recently, and everything they do is really slick and perfectly executed. As one small example, when the players arrive, the coach pulls up into a reserved area outside, with a load of music and blue smoke etc. They then walk down a blue carpet, signing autographs and high-fiving the kids. They then walk into a hospitality area called the tunnel club, where they walk through the fans and again pose for photos etc. Prices in there are obviously astronomical, but even though it's staged and corporate as hell, I have to say it's really impressive. Compare that to the recent thread on here, where the answer to when the coach arrives is "well, sometimes it's about 2 hours before, but the players all have massive headphones on and just slink into the ground."

When you can't even buy a drink at half time in most areas of Villa Park, you realise just how far behind the times we are. Hopefully the upgrade to the North Stand will help to get things slightly more up to date, but you're then still left with three stands with outdated facilities.

The Trinity Road stand is being updated and concourses extended at the same time as the North Stand rebuild, and Witton Lane will be worked on in the next phase.  The facilities in the lower Holte at least are much better since the work over Christmas and new year as well.  Hopefully it will all add up to a much better service experience whilst still playing at a place that is recognisably Villa Park and not some bland, corporate bowl.

Even so, at the end of the day, Man City aren't the club with the highest turnover in England because of the tunnel club and fanzone - it's because they have systematically attempted to circumnavigate the rules with 'related party' sponsorships and shady payment deals with players and staff, which are now under investigation.