Aston Villa 2 The Arse 4 Post Match ah well what could have been thread

[London Villan]

Yet we created the 3 best chances in the 2nd half - until konsa tried to give them a goal, then it all went wrong.

[Risso]

Yet we created the 3 best chances in the 2nd half - until konsa tried to give them a goal, then it all went wrong.

I can think of at least three sitters that Arsneal missed in the second half. The Odegaard one was on a plate for him.

[Risso]

Improvement? When was the last time we’ve been this bad defensively? If Nketiah and Odegaard could finish they’d have had 6 or 7.

Fulham 3-0 was pretty grim.

Think we need to get back to basics on the training pitch this week and stop asking players to do things they can't.

Watched Everton-Leeds after which was a very poor game but Everton made it a scrap and scrambled a goal out of very little so that's the template for them next week.

Most of their set pieces were finding Tarkowski at the back post so we need to be aware of that (aswell as obviously practising running out a bit quicker to someone on the edge of the box rather than just jogging constantly).

I'm expecting three wins before the next international break so we need to get back on it at Goodison as we do have goals in us at least.

The Fulham game was one match, where it looked pretty certain that the players had downed tools as far as Gerrard was concerned. These last three games were supposed to see us try to get into the top half and have a go for the European spots, but we've been a disorganised rabble, handing out goals on a plate to every team we've played.

[VILLA MOLE]

of which two are the top two

[pauliewalnuts]

of which two are the top two

And in the 93rd minute today, we were taking a point off Arsenal until a shot went in via the crossbar and the back of our goalkeeper's head.

That's a fine margin.

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

There are two absolutely bonkers positions appearing post this game today:

- Those losing patience with Emery (not those criticising issues in the game that clearly need to be addressed, but actually implying he should be under pressure)

- Those stating we could easily replace Martinez and thinking he’s a significant problem.

Re 1st point, I don’t bother reading every post these days, but if true that’s just plain ridiculous!
Re 2nd point 11 goals conceded by Martinez in 3 games would not have won him the World Cup/golden glove. It’s not a good look for him. Something definitely needs sorting there.
But for an unlucky crossbar wallop and 2 freakish goals in injury time for them we’d have deservedly got something from this game.
Great to see Ollie on the scoresheet again. UTV!

[Rigadon]

There are two absolutely bonkers positions appearing post this game today:

- Those losing patience with Emery (not those criticising issues in the game that clearly need to be addressed, but actually implying he should be under pressure)

- Those stating we could easily replace Martinez and thinking he’s a significant problem.

Emery is a fantastic manager and will win us something before he leaves - he could even be the long awaited messiah to get us back onto the top table.  But we've lost badly in the last few games and people are pissed off.  With a game against a battling Everton next, it's a bit twitchy.  Emery isn't under any pressure whatsoever and rightly so.   

Martinez.   I've read a few comments about his probable departure in the summer and more recently his time wasting , but none questioning his ability - he's obviously a fantastic keeper.  But his time wasting seems to have gone into overdrive the last 6 months or so.  Today I thought it was counterproductive. 

[edgysatsuma89]

What an absolute fucking chump that keeper is. His twattery quite literally rebounding on him today. Sure, take the piss a bit, but not when you’re letting in four goals a game.

Correct. Imagine not comprehending that his constant time wasting adds up over 90+ minutes. That 5 or 6 minutes he's blatantly wasting could be used for attacking to try and score more goals than the opposition.

I don't even reply to them, lolz

Lolololololz

[ChicagoLion]

There are two absolutely bonkers positions appearing post this game today:

- Those losing patience with Emery (not those criticising issues in the game that clearly need to be addressed, but actually implying he should be under pressure)

- Those stating we could easily replace Martinez and thinking he’s a significant problem.

Emery is a fantastic manager and will win us something before he leaves - he could even be the long awaited messiah to get us back onto the top table.  But we've lost badly in the last few games and people are pissed off.  With a game against a battling Everton next, it's a bit twitchy.  Emery isn't under any pressure whatsoever and rightly so.   

Martinez.   I've read a few comments about his probable departure in the summer and more recently his time wasting , but none questioning his ability - he's obviously a fantastic keeper.  But his time wasting seems to have gone into overdrive the last 6 months or so.  Today I thought it was counterproductive.

Hi kicked the ball in to touch 6 or 7 times today.
He was as much at fault as anyone giving up possession today.

[Clark W Griswold]

I disagree with any criticism for Emery or Martinez at this point and i very much doubt anything will go too far south with either of them to change my view.

I am quite convinced that the level of performance will drop next week against Everton though, who will out battle us for their three points. Its the Villa way, and the level of meltdown on here will be quite something after that.

[Percy McCarthy]

of which two are the top two

And in the 93rd minute today, we were taking a point off Arsenal until a shot went in via the crossbar and the back of our goalkeeper's head.

That's a fine margin.

…which should have been ruled out judging by precedent.

[astonvilla82]

of which two are the top two

And in the 93rd minute today, we were taking a point off Arsenal until a shot went in via the crossbar and the back of our goalkeeper's head.

That's a fine margin.

…which should have been ruled out judging by precedent.

why would it be ruled out, haven't seen any highlights

[Goldenballs]

On BT they were saying that an offside player was possibly in Emi's line of sight. Nobody appealed for it though, I don't know if VAR checked it.

[London Villan]

Two offside players obstructing emi’s view, as per our rules out goal vs them a couple of seasons ago.

[Taylor]

Improvement? When was the last time we’ve been this bad defensively? If Nketiah and Odegaard could finish they’d have had 6 or 7.

Fulham 3-0 was pretty grim.

Think we need to get back to basics on the training pitch this week and stop asking players to do things they can't.

Watched Everton-Leeds after which was a very poor game but Everton made it a scrap and scrambled a goal out of very little so that's the template for them next week.

Most of their set pieces were finding Tarkowski at the back post so we need to be aware of that (aswell as obviously practising running out a bit quicker to someone on the edge of the box rather than just jogging constantly).

I'm expecting three wins before the next international break so we need to get back on it at Goodison as we do have goals in us at least.

The Fulham game was one match, where it looked pretty certain that the players had downed tools as far as Gerrard was concerned. These last three games were supposed to see us try to get into the top half and have a go for the European spots, but we've been a disorganised rabble, handing out goals on a plate to every team we've played.

Handing out goals. Disorganised rabble. Really? For crying out loud we’ve just narrowly lost to the team top of the table, and to the team who won the league last season. Perspective please.